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* [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
@ 2010-05-16  4:42 William Kenworthy
  2010-05-16  7:08 ` Mick
  2010-05-16 22:55 ` walt
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: William Kenworthy @ 2010-05-16  4:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user List

I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
an ... anomaly!

It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
it?

How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
anything so far.

BillK

-- 
William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
Home in Perth!




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* Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-16  4:42 [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary William Kenworthy
@ 2010-05-16  7:08 ` Mick
  2010-05-16 10:22   ` William Kenworthy
  2010-05-16 22:55 ` walt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2010-05-16  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
> an ... anomaly!
> 
> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
> sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
> it?
> 
> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
> anything so far.

euse -I kdrive

will show which packages on your system are using this flag.

-- 
Regards,
Mick

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* Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-16  7:08 ` Mick
@ 2010-05-16 10:22   ` William Kenworthy
  2010-05-16 11:03     ` ich bins
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: William Kenworthy @ 2010-05-16 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:
> On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
> > I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
> > an ... anomaly!
> > 
> > It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
> > sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
> > so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
> > it?
> > 
> > How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
> > anything so far.
> 
> euse -I kdrive
> 
> will show which packages on your system are using this flag.
> 

Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
needed that I want:

>From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to
require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...

COMMON_DEPEND=">=dev-lang/python-2.4
    >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
    >=dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
    >=dev-python/pygobject-2.15
    x11-libs/pango
    dev-python/python-ldap
    x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]"


It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
here as well - seems to work ok.

BillK





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* Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-16 10:22   ` William Kenworthy
@ 2010-05-16 11:03     ` ich bins
  2010-05-16 11:14       ` William Kenworthy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: ich bins @ 2010-05-16 11:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Am 16.05.2010 12:22, schrieb William Kenworthy:
> On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:
>> On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
>>> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
>>> an ... anomaly!
>>>
>>> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
>>> sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
>>> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
>>> it?
>>>
>>> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
>>> anything so far.
>>
>> euse -I kdrive
>>
>> will show which packages on your system are using this flag.
>>
> 
> Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
> needed that I want:
> 
>> >From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to
> require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
> is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...
> 
> COMMON_DEPEND=">=dev-lang/python-2.4
>     >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
>     >=dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
>     >=dev-python/pygobject-2.15
>     x11-libs/pango
>     dev-python/python-ldap
>     x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]"
> 
> 
> It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
> guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
> here as well - seems to work ok.
> 
> BillK
> 
> 
> 
You need kdrive for Xephyr!



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* Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-16 11:03     ` ich bins
@ 2010-05-16 11:14       ` William Kenworthy
  2010-05-16 20:10         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: William Kenworthy @ 2010-05-16 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 13:03 +0200, ich bins wrote:
> Am 16.05.2010 12:22, schrieb William Kenworthy:
> > On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:
> >> On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
> >>> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
> >>> an ... anomaly!
> >>>
> >>> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
> >>> sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
> >>> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
> >>> it?
> >>>
> >>> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
> >>> anything so far.
> >>
> >> euse -I kdrive
> >>
> >> will show which packages on your system are using this flag.
> >>
> > 
> > Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
> > needed that I want:
> > 
> >> >From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to
> > require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
> > is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...
> > 
> > COMMON_DEPEND=">=dev-lang/python-2.4
> >     >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
> >     >=dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
> >     >=dev-python/pygobject-2.15
> >     x11-libs/pango
> >     dev-python/python-ldap
> >     x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]"
> > 
> > 
> > It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
> > guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
> > here as well - seems to work ok.
> > 
> > BillK
> > 
> > 
> > 
> You need kdrive for Xephyr!
> 

Perhaps, but its not installed and doesnt even have an ebuild that I can
see.

BillK








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* [gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-16 11:14       ` William Kenworthy
@ 2010-05-16 20:10         ` walt
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: walt @ 2010-05-16 20:10 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 05/16/2010 04:14 AM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 13:03 +0200, ich bins wrote:
>> Am 16.05.2010 12:22, schrieb William Kenworthy:
>>> On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote:
>>>> On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
>>>>> an ... anomaly!
>>>>>
>>>>> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
>>>>> sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
>>>>> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
>>>>> it?
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
>>>>> anything so far.
>>>>
>>>> euse -I kdrive
>>>>
>>>> will show which packages on your system are using this flag.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be
>>> needed that I want:
>>>
>>>> > From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to
>>> require xorg-server to be built with kdrive.  So even though this system
>>> is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ...
>>>
>>> COMMON_DEPEND=">=dev-lang/python-2.4
>>>      >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0
>>>      >=dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3
>>>      >=dev-python/pygobject-2.15
>>>      x11-libs/pango
>>>      dev-python/python-ldap
>>>      x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]"
>>>
>>>
>>> It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so
>>> guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome
>>> here as well - seems to work ok.
>>>
>>> BillK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> You need kdrive for Xephyr!
>>
>
> Perhaps, but its not installed and doesnt even have an ebuild that I can
> see.

Xephyr is a driver installed by xorg-server-1.8 on my ~amd64 machine, but
not on my x86 machine with xorg-server-1.7.6.  Which version are you trying
to install?





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* [gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-16  4:42 [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary William Kenworthy
  2010-05-16  7:08 ` Mick
@ 2010-05-16 22:55 ` walt
  2010-05-17  1:26   ` Bill Kenworthy
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: walt @ 2010-05-16 22:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
> an ... anomaly!
>
> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
> sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
> it?
>
> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
> anything so far.

The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:

#emerge -auNDt world





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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-16 22:55 ` walt
@ 2010-05-17  1:26   ` Bill Kenworthy
  2010-05-17  1:55     ` walt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bill Kenworthy @ 2010-05-17  1:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

-t doesnt work in this case as emerge wants xorg-server built with the
kdrive flag before it will continue processing - which makes sense.

BillK

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 15:55 -0700, walt wrote:
> On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> > I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
> > an ... anomaly!
> >
> > It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
> > sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
> > so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
> > it?
> >
> > How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
> > anything so far.
> 
> The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:
> 
> #emerge -auNDt world
> 
> 
> 




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* [gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-17  1:26   ` Bill Kenworthy
@ 2010-05-17  1:55     ` walt
  2010-05-17  2:09       ` Bill Kenworthy
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: walt @ 2010-05-17  1:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 05/16/2010 06:26 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> -t doesnt work in this case as emerge wants xorg-server built with the
> kdrive flag before it will continue processing - which makes sense.

AFAICT, the cost of enabling kdrive is trivial.  It compiles one more
"server" /usr/bin/Xephyr, so I'd say just enable kdrive and go for it!

>
> On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 15:55 -0700, walt wrote:
>> On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
>>> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
>>> an ... anomaly!
>>>
>>> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
>>> sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
>>> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
>>> it?
>>>
>>> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
>>> anything so far.
>>
>> The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:
>>
>> #emerge -auNDt world
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>





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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdrive use flag quandary
  2010-05-17  1:55     ` walt
@ 2010-05-17  2:09       ` Bill Kenworthy
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Bill Kenworthy @ 2010-05-17  2:09 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 18:55 -0700, walt wrote:
> On 05/16/2010 06:26 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote:
> > -t doesnt work in this case as emerge wants xorg-server built with the
> > kdrive flag before it will continue processing - which makes sense.
> 
> AFAICT, the cost of enabling kdrive is trivial.  It compiles one more
> "server" /usr/bin/Xephyr, so I'd say just enable kdrive and go for it!
> 

Thanks Walt, thats interesting that gnome-2.28 includes Xephyr via
kdrive - bonus :)

The system was moved to gnome-2.28 and updated/upgraded overnight and I
just have half a dozen pkgs to sort out - after trying 217!) and its
done.

BillK

> >
> > On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 15:55 -0700, walt wrote:
> >> On 05/15/2010 09:42 PM, William Kenworthy wrote:
> >>> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have
> >>> an ... anomaly!
> >>>
> >>> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and
> >>> sabayon - why?  I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg
> >>> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is
> >>> it?
> >>>
> >>> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find
> >>> anything so far.
> >>
> >> The method most often suggested is adding the 't' flag to your emerge:
> >>
> >> #emerge -auNDt world
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 




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