From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-109050-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Ns3dq-0007d0-GH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:31:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43636E0916; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail2.pcorp.com.au (mail2.pcorp.com.au [150.101.72.19]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3C4E0916 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.pcorp.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64C1107406A for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:00:08 +0930 (CST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail2.pcorp.com.au Received: from mail2.pcorp.com.au ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail2.pcorp.com.au [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id usccb3AoY-N7; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:00:08 +0930 (CST) Received: from [172.16.0.52] (unknown [172.16.0.52]) by mail2.pcorp.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD471074068 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:00:08 +0930 (CST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Udev error and how to fix it. From: Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20100317142552.GA9684@math.princeton.edu> References: <4B9F4491.4050105@gmail.com> <20100316171931.GA19373@math.princeton.edu> <20100316173311.GE4499@Cauthorn.Fullrate> <201003170117.58328.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <20100317075649.GA2836@Cauthorn.Fullrate> <1268830696.6194.27.camel@localhost> <20100317130511.GB6612@Cauthorn.wlan.tnb.aau.dk> <20100317142552.GA9684@math.princeton.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:59:27 +0930 Message-ID: <1268872167.6194.107.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.28.3.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 8d42fbd5-4183-4a15-800e-ba6d59da41d7 X-Archives-Hash: 4be91284ad1ef82df2f8db1ca1baf144 On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 10:25 -0400, Willie Wong wrote: > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 02:05:12PM +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > > > I don't see any need for excuses, it sounds like fine common English to > > > me, with the possible exception of a run-on "if". I meant to use the word apology instead of excuse, but it was late for me too :) > > > The full sentence was "I usually always look to see if Dale has been > > > involved in a thread if HAL is mentioned" > > Ah it's just using two different words that describe seeing something :-) > > I like to think that my english is a little better. I mean it should have been "see if" or "look to see whether" (as far as I remember anyway :-)) > > > Huh, the "look to see" part, while inelegant and repetitive, is a common > colloquialism, and I don't think was the problem. I was more thrown > off by "usually always", which is either an oxymoron (if you take a > strict view of the word "usually") or redundant (if you take "usually" > to contain "always" as a subset). </pedant> > > (Looks like I only have off-topic contributions to this thread.) me too. "usually always" is also a colloquialism which means "almost always" ;) ie. not quite always, but close to it... at least it usually always means that. But hey, if we were to be that picky on this list hardly anyone would be here. That's why we have programming languages, because English is too forgiving and fuzzy! -- Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au> War is like love, it always finds a way. -- Bertolt Brecht, "Mother Courage"