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* [gentoo-user]  What xorg pkgs needed for X to work
@ 2010-01-15 18:03 Harry Putnam
  2010-01-15 20:14 ` Albert W. Hopkins
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2010-01-15 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
anything better.

I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall

So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
I test what all gets installed with:

  emerge -vp xfce4-meta

I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies. 

xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.

Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
that I haven't kept up with.

But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Just so you know its not already installed, heres a grep of all
installed pkgs:

  qlop --list|grep xorg
  Fri Jan 15 11:02:43 2010 >>> x11-misc/xorg-cf-files-1.0.3

-----     -----      -----    =====     -----     -----     -----
 
I've included the dependencies in case anyone is interested...
Should there be something more from xorg?

emerge -vp xfce4-meta 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies   \b\b... done!
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/libpaper-1.1.23  343 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r2  USE="nls" 121 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/setuptools-0.6.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/dmidecode-2.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/iso-codes-3.11.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/glib-2.22.3  USE="-debug -doc -fam -hardened (-selinux) -xattr" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXext-1.1.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/freetype-2.3.11  USE="X -bindist -debug -doc -fontforge -utils" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/dbus-1.3.0-r1  USE="X -debug -doc (-selinux) -test" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/eselect-1.2.9 [1.2.3] USE="-bash-completion -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2  USE="python -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libxkbfile-1.0.6  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme-4.4.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/xcb-util-0.3.6  USE="-debug -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/appres-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/netpbm-10.48.00-r1  USE="X jpeg png tiff zlib -jbig -jpeg2k -rle -svga -xml" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/recordproto-1.14  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xprop-1.1.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.22  USE="python -alisp -debug -doc" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xbitmaps-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.6-r1  USE="X -rle" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/imake-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/gccmakedep-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/numpy-1.4.0  USE="-doc -lapack -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/usbutils-0.86-r1  USE="zlib -network-cron" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/eject-0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.19  USE="nls -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/resourceproto-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libfontenc-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/iceauth-1.0.3  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.7.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.82  USE="-bash-completion -debug -doc -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXmu-1.0.5  USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXfixes-4.0.4  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXrandr-1.3.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/atk-1.28.0  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXi-1.3  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.70  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.8  USE="nls -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pygobject-2.20.0  USE="-debug -doc -examples -libffi -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.7  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXxf86misc-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/eselect-emacs-1.13  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXp-1.0.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.2  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXfontcache-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/glib-perl-1.222  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/gam-server-0.1.10  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXres-1.0.4  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfconf-4.7.0  USE="perl -debug -profile" 461 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXcursor-1.1.10  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXdamage-1.1.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXcomposite-0.4.1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xrdb-1.0.6  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xwininfo-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xset-1.1.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/Xaw3d-1.5-r1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/gamin-0.1.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/mkfontdir-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/encodings-1.0.3  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-1.7  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libxklavier-4.0  USE="-doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.8.0  USE="-doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/eselect-fontconfig-1.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.14  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/dejavu-2.30  USE="X -fontforge" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/poppler-0.12.1  USE="abiword lcms poppler-data" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/cairo-1.8.8  USE="X svg (-aqua) -cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -glitz -opengl -xcb" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/poppler-utils-0.12.1  USE="abiword png" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/pango-1.26.2  USE="X -debug -doc -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pycairo-1.8.8  USE="svg -doc -examples" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.14-r1  USE="X acpi -apm -consolekit -crypt -debug -dell -disk-partition -doc -laptop -policykit (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-misc/hal-info-20091130  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xdg-utils-1.0.2-r3  USE="-doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] net-print/cups-1.4.2-r1  USE="X acl dbus jpeg pam perl png python samba ssl tiff -debug -gnutls -java -kerberos -ldap -php -slp -static -xinetd" LINGUAS="-da -de -es -eu -fi -fr -it -ja -ko -nl -no -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -sv -zh -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.70-r1  USE="X cups -bindist -cairo -djvu -gtk -jpeg2k" LINGUAS="-ja -ko -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.18.6  USE="cups jpeg tiff (-aqua) -debug -doc -jpeg2k -test -vim-syntax -xinerama" 17,713 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/libglade-2.6.4  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libwnck-2.28.0  USE="startup-notification -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.6.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/libxfce4menu-4.6.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.6.2  USE="startup-notification -debug -glade" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pygtk-2.16.0-r1  USE="-doc -examples -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.10  USE="jpeg pam -new-login -opengl -suid -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/exo-0.3.105-r1  USE="hal python -debug -libnotify" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1  USE="dbus lock -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.6.1  USE="startup-notification xcomposite -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.16  USE="bzip2 python -doc -gnome -gtk -thumbnail" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.6.2  USE="startup-notification -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.6.3-r1  USE="keyboard -debug -libnotify -sound" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.1-r1  USE="-debug -fortune -gnome -gnome-keyring -profile" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.26.0  USE="zlib -debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-emacs/emacs-common-gentoo-1.2  USE="X -emacs22icons" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-editors/emacs-23.1-r2  USE="X Xaw3d alsa dbus gif gpm jpeg png svg tiff xpm -gtk -gzip-el -hesiod -kerberos -m17n-lib -motif -sound -source -toolkit-scroll-bars -xft" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/emacs-23  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.15  USE="emacs" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/thunar-1.0.1  USE="dbus exif hal pcre startup-notification trash-plugin -debug -doc -gnome -test" 8,597 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.6.1-r1  USE="branding menu-plugin thunar -debug -doc" LINGUAS="-be -ca -cs -da -de -el -es -et -eu -fi -fr -he -hu -it -ja -ko -nb_NO -nl -pa -pl -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sv -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.6.1  USE="session -minimal" 0 kB

Total: 105 packages (1 upgrade, 104 new), Size of downloads: 27,234 kB




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* [gentoo-user]  What xorg pkgs needed for X to work
@ 2010-01-15 18:43 Harry Putnam
  2010-01-15 19:14 ` Alan McKinnon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Harry Putnam @ 2010-01-15 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

[Please excuse if this is a double whammy... it appears not to have
made it to the mail/news server]

Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
anything better.

I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall

So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
I test what all gets installed with:

  emerge -vp xfce4-meta

I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies. 

xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.

Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
that I haven't kept up with.

But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Just so you know its not already installed, heres a grep of all
installed pkgs:

  qlop --list|grep xorg
  Fri Jan 15 11:02:43 2010 >>> x11-misc/xorg-cf-files-1.0.3

-----     -----      -----    =====     -----     -----     -----
 
I've included the dependencies in case anyone is interested...
Should there be something more from xorg?

emerge -vp xfce4-meta 

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies   \b\b... done!
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/libpaper-1.1.23  343 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/eject-2.1.5-r2  USE="nls" 121 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/setuptools-0.6.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/dmidecode-2.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/iso-codes-3.11.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/glib-2.22.3  USE="-debug -doc -fam -hardened (-selinux) -xattr" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXext-1.1.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/freetype-2.3.11  USE="X -bindist -debug -doc -fontforge -utils" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXrender-0.9.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/dbus-1.3.0-r1  USE="X -debug -doc (-selinux) -test" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] app-admin/eselect-1.2.9 [1.2.3] USE="-bash-completion -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libgamin-0.1.10-r2  USE="python -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libxkbfile-1.0.6  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme-4.4.3  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/xcb-util-0.3.6  USE="-debug -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/appres-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/netpbm-10.48.00-r1  USE="X jpeg png tiff zlib -jbig -jpeg2k -rle -svga -xml" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/recordproto-1.14  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xprop-1.1.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.22  USE="python -alisp -debug -doc" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xbitmaps-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/giflib-4.1.6-r1  USE="X -rle" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/imake-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/gccmakedep-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/numpy-1.4.0  USE="-doc -lapack -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/usbutils-0.86-r1  USE="zlib -network-cron" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/eject-0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/libexif-0.6.19  USE="nls -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-proto/resourceproto-1.1.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libfontenc-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/iceauth-1.0.3  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.7.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.82  USE="-bash-completion -debug -doc -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXmu-1.0.5  USE="-debug -ipv6" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/startup-notification-0.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXfixes-4.0.4  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXrandr-1.3.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/atk-1.28.0  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXi-1.3  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/shared-mime-info-0.70  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXpm-3.5.8  USE="nls -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pygobject-2.20.0  USE="-debug -doc -examples -libffi -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/mkfontscale-1.0.7  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xkbcomp-1.1.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXxf86misc-1.0.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/eselect-emacs-1.13  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXp-1.0.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/libcroco-0.6.2  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXfontcache-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-perl/glib-perl-1.222  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/gam-server-0.1.10  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXres-1.0.4  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfconf-4.7.0  USE="perl -debug -profile" 461 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXcursor-1.1.10  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXdamage-1.1.2  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXcomposite-0.4.1  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xrdb-1.0.6  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xwininfo-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xset-1.1.0  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/Xaw3d-1.5-r1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/gamin-0.1.10  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/mkfontdir-1.0.5  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/encodings-1.0.3  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xkeyboard-config-1.7  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libxklavier-4.0  USE="-doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-libs/fontconfig-2.8.0  USE="-doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-admin/eselect-fontconfig-1.1  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libXft-2.1.14  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/dejavu-2.30  USE="X -fontforge" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-libs/poppler-0.12.1  USE="abiword lcms poppler-data" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/cairo-1.8.8  USE="X svg (-aqua) -cleartype -debug -directfb -doc -glitz -opengl -xcb" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/poppler-utils-0.12.1  USE="abiword png" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/pango-1.26.2  USE="X -debug -doc -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pycairo-1.8.8  USE="svg -doc -examples" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.14-r1  USE="X acpi -apm -consolekit -crypt -debug -dell -disk-partition -doc -laptop -policykit (-selinux)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-misc/hal-info-20091130  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xdg-utils-1.0.2-r3  USE="-doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] net-print/cups-1.4.2-r1  USE="X acl dbus jpeg pam perl png python samba ssl tiff -debug -gnutls -java -kerberos -ldap -php -slp -static -xinetd" LINGUAS="-da -de -es -eu -fi -fr -it -ja -ko -nl -no -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -sv -zh -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.70-r1  USE="X cups -bindist -cairo -djvu -gtk -jpeg2k" LINGUAS="-ja -ko -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/gtk+-2.18.6  USE="cups jpeg tiff (-aqua) -debug -doc -jpeg2k -test -vim-syntax -xinerama" 17,713 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/libglade-2.6.4  USE="-debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/libwnck-2.28.0  USE="startup-notification -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-themes/gtk-engines-xfce-2.6.0  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/libxfce4menu-4.6.1  USE="-debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.6.2  USE="startup-notification -debug -glade" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-python/pygtk-2.16.0-r1  USE="-doc -examples -test" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-5.10  USE="jpeg pam -new-login -opengl -suid -xinerama" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/exo-0.3.105-r1  USE="hal python -debug -libnotify" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce-utils-4.6.1  USE="dbus lock -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.6.1  USE="startup-notification xcomposite -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-extra/libgsf-1.14.16  USE="bzip2 python -doc -gnome -gtk -thumbnail" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-panel-4.6.2  USE="startup-notification -debug" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-settings-4.6.3-r1  USE="keyboard -debug -libnotify -sound" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.1-r1  USE="-debug -fortune -gnome -gnome-keyring -profile" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.26.0  USE="zlib -debug -doc" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-emacs/emacs-common-gentoo-1.2  USE="X -emacs22icons" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-editors/emacs-23.1-r2  USE="X Xaw3d alsa dbus gif gpm jpeg png svg tiff xpm -gtk -gzip-el -hesiod -kerberos -m17n-lib -motif -sound -source -toolkit-scroll-bars -xft" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] virtual/emacs-23  0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] dev-util/desktop-file-utils-0.15  USE="emacs" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/thunar-1.0.1  USE="dbus exif hal pcre startup-notification trash-plugin -debug -doc -gnome -test" 8,597 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.6.1-r1  USE="branding menu-plugin thunar -debug -doc" LINGUAS="-be -ca -cs -da -de -el -es -et -eu -fi -fr -he -hu -it -ja -ko -nb_NO -nl -pa -pl -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sv -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.6.1  USE="session -minimal" 0 kB

Total: 105 packages (1 upgrade, 104 new), Size of downloads: 27,234 kB




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* Re: [gentoo-user]  What xorg pkgs needed for X to work
  2010-01-15 18:43 Harry Putnam
@ 2010-01-15 19:14 ` Alan McKinnon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2010-01-15 19:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Friday 15 January 2010 20:43:32 Harry Putnam wrote:
> [Please excuse if this is a double whammy... it appears not to have
> made it to the mail/news server]
> 
> Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
> anything better.
> 
> I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall
> 
> So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
> I test what all gets installed with:
> 
>   emerge -vp xfce4-meta
> 
> I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies.
> 
> xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
> pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.
> 
> Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
> that I haven't kept up with.
> 
> But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Yes.

This is how X11 works. xfce does not need a full blown xserver on the *local* 
machine, it simply needs X libs to function. The X libs in turn will talk to 
the xserver, which does not have to be on the local machine.

Parallel situation: You do not need X and a browser on a machine running a web 
server, as the pages served are not necessarily viewed on the machine hosting 
apache.

To get X you can either;

merge xorg-x11 (this is the "meta" package you didn't know the name of) or
put "X" in USE

Note carefully that this is not a silly situation, it works this way by 
design.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



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* Re: [gentoo-user]  What xorg pkgs needed for X to work
  2010-01-15 18:03 [gentoo-user] What xorg pkgs needed for X to work Harry Putnam
@ 2010-01-15 20:14 ` Albert W. Hopkins
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Albert W. Hopkins @ 2010-01-15 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Fri, 2010-01-15 at 12:03 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Sorry for the awkwardly phrased subject... but couldn't think of
> anything better.
> 
> I'm rebuilding my home desktop with a full reinstall
> 
> So far haven't gotten to getting X working... but did notice that when
> I test what all gets installed with:
> 
>   emerge -vp xfce4-meta
> 
> I notice that xorg-x11 is not amongst the... dependencies. 
> 
> xorg-server is absent as well, but I seem to recall a more basic xorg
> pkgs being involved.  Maybe something like xorg-base... or whatever.
> 
> Apparently something has happened with naming of pkgs or something,
> that I haven't kept up with.
> 
> But can a user really get use out of xfce4-meta with no xorg-server?

Yes, in same way a user can can get use out of Firefox without
installing Apache ;-).  X11 is client/server based.  Client(s) and
server need not exist on the same machine, and a server can serve
multiple distributed clients simultaneously without any local clients.

You probably want:

$ # set up VIDEO_CARDS and INPUT_DEVICES as appropriate
$ emerge -vp xfce4-meta xorg-server 




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