From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NPCSy-0002fj-Pz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:04:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E03B5E0961 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:04:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out6.iinet.net.au (outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out6.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.109]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E79E0784 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:40:13 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApoEAHL9N0vLO5iP/2dsb2JhbADRaoQzBA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,461,1257091200"; d="scan'208";a="46583721" Received: from unknown (HELO moriah.localdomain) ([203.59.152.143]) by outbound.icp-qv1-irony-out6.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 28 Dec 2009 16:40:11 +0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC52319EFE23 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:40:10 +0800 (WST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at localdomain Received: from moriah.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (moriah.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wZ5K3kH3CRWc for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:40:07 +0800 (WST) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (rattus [192.168.1.2]) by moriah.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE991BB38C4 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 16:40:07 +0800 (WST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Mothballing a ~arch gentoo system? From: William Kenworthy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4B384FD2.50907@gmail.com> References: <4B3810C8.2010906@cox.net> <4B381BAC.8020203@gmail.com> <1261978906.11618.63.camel@rattus> <4B384FD2.50907@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Home in Perth! Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 08:40:07 +0000 Message-Id: <1261989607.11618.88.camel@rattus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7a34423c-1228-435f-a970-f587190d3821 X-Archives-Hash: 6db36f7f13c997df0ac2f405e4a202ad On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 00:27 -0600, Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 20:45 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> Marcus Wanner wrote: ... trim ... > > > > The minimal system should be quicker and simpler to update than a crufty > > system - and if you have to update much of gnome and the like, > > updating/reinstalling might take longer than building from scratch > > anyway (going by my last update to gnome :) > > > > BillK > > > > > > I should also add that I use KDE. So, updating all that takes time plus > if there are packages with "issues" then that adds to the grief. It > appears that it depends on just what you have installed. If it is a > bare system, then it may not be to bad. If it is a full blown KDE like > mine, then that could take a really long while. Of course, portage has > been a lot better at handling blocks here lately too. There are > exceptions and they always confuse the heck out of me but it is a lot > better. That should shorten the update time for a lot of packages. > > Maybe a 'emerge -ep world | genlop -p' would be in order here. > > Dale > > :-) :-) Thats why I think removing gnome (or kde) is a good idea - replace with a lightweight desktop so you still have the required functionality. it is for emergency use after all. I find that building from scratch is usually less of a problem than large updates as blocks and problems seem to occur less often. So it is feasable to spend overnight installing gnome/kde if need be as you still have a usable system in the meantime - may not be as nice as kde, but it will still get the job done.