[gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

Afternoon all,

Has anyone some experience of bitwarden on Gentoo? It doesn't run for me, and 
I suspect a java problem. I have icedtea here.

I'm talking about the installed version, not the firefox extension, which seems 
to work.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Wynn Wolf Arbor]

Hi Peter,

On 2020-06-14 12:43, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Afternoon all,
> 
> Has anyone some experience of bitwarden on Gentoo? It doesn't run for
> me, and I suspect a java problem. I have icedtea here.
> 
> I'm talking about the installed version, not the firefox extension,
> which seems to work.

Which installed version are you talking about? I don't see the Bitwarden
desktop or command line app in the tree - I guess you downloaded one
from their site?

I used to run the desktop app myself, and am pretty sure it does not
require a Java runtime. If you use the AppImage version, there might be
certain libs missing (tested it out just now, and it fails to start
because it cannot find libsecret).

Have you tried running it from the command line to see what it says?

-- 
Wolf

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday, 14 June 2020 13:06:32 BST Wynn Wolf Arbor wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On 2020-06-14 12:43, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Afternoon all,
> > 
> > Has anyone some experience of bitwarden on Gentoo? It doesn't run for
> > me, and I suspect a java problem. I have icedtea here.
> > 
> > I'm talking about the installed version, not the firefox extension,
> > which seems to work.
> 
> Which installed version are you talking about? I don't see the Bitwarden
> desktop or command line app in the tree - I guess you downloaded one
> from their site?

Yes, it isn't in the tree. I've tried both the Appimage version and the .rpm, 
the latter after rpm2targz. I installed them in my home directory.

> I used to run the desktop app myself, and am pretty sure it does not
> require a Java runtime. If you use the AppImage version, there might be
> certain libs missing (tested it out just now, and it fails to start
> because it cannot find libsecret).
> 
> Have you tried running it from the command line to see what it says?

Yes; this is what I get:

$ ./Bitwarden*/opt/Bitwarden/bitwarden
A JavaScript error occurred in the main process
Uncaught Exception:
Error: /tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.QkN0cP: failed to map segment from shared 
object
--->8

I haven't played with java before, so I'm trying to follow the gentoo wiki. My 
first question is whether I need a jdk as well as a jre. The wiki talks 
blithely about virtual machines, and I'm left to guess whether the jre is the 
jvm, as it seems. I'm currently installing openjre and openjdk; icedtea-bin is 
also installed.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Wynn Wolf Arbor]

On 2020-06-14 18:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Yes; this is what I get:
> 
> $ ./Bitwarden*/opt/Bitwarden/bitwarden
> A JavaScript error occurred in the main process
> Uncaught Exception:
> Error: /tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.QkN0cP: failed to map segment from shared 
> object
> --->8

From what I remember this is caused by having /tmp mounted with noexec.
Sadly the app tries to execute a process directly from within the
temporary directory and fails. Try something like this to confirm:

	mkdir $HOME/.cache/bitwarden-tmp
	TMPDIR=$HOME/.cache/bitwarden-tmp ./Bitwarden*/opt/Bitwarden/bitwarden

To see whether you've mounted /tmp with noexec: mount | grep /tmp

Should give something like this:

	tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)

Note that having /tmp mounted with noexec is usually a good idea. I used
to create a wrapper script that launched these kinds of app with a
special TMPDIR.

> I haven't played with java before, so I'm trying to follow the gentoo
> wiki. My first question is whether I need a jdk as well as a jre. The
> wiki talks blithely about virtual machines, and I'm left to guess
> whether the jre is the jvm, as it seems. I'm currently installing
> openjre and openjdk; icedtea-bin is also installed.

The JRE is the Runtime Environment. It includes all things necessary to
run a compiled Java program (so it does indeed include the JVM). The JDK
is the Development Kit - it includes the JRE, but also ships with the
javac compiler and a few other tools. So, if you intend to just run an
already compiled Java program (usually in the form of a .jar), you just
need the JRE. If you need to compile Java programs, you should instead
install the JDK (and can remove the JRE fully).

Regardless of that, JavaScript is not Java [1]. There's no need for the
JRE if you want to run JavaScript code. The Bitwarden desktop app does
not need a JRE or JDK.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#Java

-- 
Wolf

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday, 14 June 2020 19:06:36 BST Wynn Wolf Arbor wrote:
> On 2020-06-14 18:45, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Yes; this is what I get:
> > 
> > $ ./Bitwarden*/opt/Bitwarden/bitwarden
> > A JavaScript error occurred in the main process
> > Uncaught Exception:
> > Error: /tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.QkN0cP: failed to map segment from
> > shared object
> > --->8
> 
> From what I remember this is caused by having /tmp mounted with noexec.
> Sadly the app tries to execute a process directly from within the
> temporary directory and fails. Try something like this to confirm:
> 
> 	mkdir $HOME/.cache/bitwarden-tmp
> 	TMPDIR=$HOME/.cache/bitwarden-tmp ./Bitwarden*/opt/Bitwarden/
bitwarden

That was a good idea - but it didn't help, so that's not the answer.

> To see whether you've mounted /tmp with noexec: mount | grep /tmp
> 
> Should give something like this:
> 
> 	tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime)
> 
> Note that having /tmp mounted with noexec is usually a good idea. I used
> to create a wrapper script that launched these kinds of app with a
> special TMPDIR.
> 
> > I haven't played with java before, so I'm trying to follow the gentoo
> > wiki. My first question is whether I need a jdk as well as a jre. The
> > wiki talks blithely about virtual machines, and I'm left to guess
> > whether the jre is the jvm, as it seems. I'm currently installing
> > openjre and openjdk; icedtea-bin is also installed.
> 
> The JRE is the Runtime Environment. It includes all things necessary to
> run a compiled Java program (so it does indeed include the JVM). The JDK
> is the Development Kit - it includes the JRE, but also ships with the
> javac compiler and a few other tools. So, if you intend to just run an
> already compiled Java program (usually in the form of a .jar), you just
> need the JRE. If you need to compile Java programs, you should instead
> install the JDK (and can remove the JRE fully).

That makes sense, and I'd supposed it to be so. It would be helpful if the 
wiki said so.

> Regardless of that, JavaScript is not Java [1]. There's no need for the
> JRE if you want to run JavaScript code. The Bitwarden desktop app does
> not need a JRE or JDK.

Yes, I understand that.

> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaScript#Java


-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sunday, 14 June 2020 12:43:21 BST Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Afternoon all,
> 
> Has anyone some experience of bitwarden on Gentoo? It doesn't run for me,
> and I suspect a java problem. I have icedtea here.
> 
> I'm talking about the installed version, not the firefox extension, which
> seems to work.

I've found an overlay with bitwarden-cli-bin, which is now installed and ready 
to accept commands.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Wynn Wolf Arbor]

On 2020-06-14 23:20, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday, 14 June 2020 19:06:36 BST Wynn Wolf Arbor wrote:
> 
> That was a good idea - but it didn't help, so that's not the answer.

If you're still interested in debugging this, did the error message stay
the same? At least the path "/tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.QkN0cP" should
have change to indicate the new TMPDIR. It should also have created
files there.

> Yes, I understand that.

Oh, sorry if I misunderstood something then. I had assumed that you
thought Java was needed for the Bitwarden app. There's no indication on
the site that it is (though then again it also doesn't say that it is an
Electron app), so I thought the confusion came from "JavaScript" in the
error message.

Good to hear that the bitwarden-cli app works for you.

-- 
Wolf

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 02:47:56 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > Has anyone some experience of bitwarden on Gentoo? It doesn't run for
> > me, and I suspect a java problem. I have icedtea here.
> > 
> > I'm talking about the installed version, not the firefox extension,
> > which seems to work.  
> 
> I've found an overlay with bitwarden-cli-bin, which is now installed
> and ready to accept commands.

I've just tried the AppImage for the desktop client and it just worked,
albeit with the usual loading speed of an AppImage.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Barth's Distinction:
There are two types of people: those who divide people into two types, and
those who don't.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 15 June 2020 12:38:03 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 02:47:56 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > Has anyone some experience of bitwarden on Gentoo? It doesn't run for
> > > me, and I suspect a java problem. I have icedtea here.
> > > 
> > > I'm talking about the installed version, not the firefox extension,
> > > which seems to work.
> > 
> > I've found an overlay with bitwarden-cli-bin, which is now installed
> > and ready to accept commands.
> 
> I've just tried the AppImage for the desktop client and it just worked,
> albeit with the usual loading speed of an AppImage.

So it can work, then. I just have to work out what I'm doing wrong. I have a 
support request in with them; no reply yet.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 20:51:54 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > I've just tried the AppImage for the desktop client and it just
> > worked, albeit with the usual loading speed of an AppImage.  
> 
> So it can work, then. I just have to work out what I'm doing wrong. I
> have a support request in with them; no reply yet.

Do other AppImages work on your computer?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

First Law of Laboratory Work:
Hot glass looks exactly the same as cold glass.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 15 June 2020 20:56:05 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 20:51:54 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > I've just tried the AppImage for the desktop client and it just
> > > worked, albeit with the usual loading speed of an AppImage.
> > 
> > So it can work, then. I just have to work out what I'm doing wrong. I
> > have a support request in with them; no reply yet.
> 
> Do other AppImages work on your computer?

This is the first one I've tried. Do you recommend any others in particular?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 00:42:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > > So it can work, then. I just have to work out what I'm doing wrong.
> > > I have a support request in with them; no reply yet.  
> > 
> > Do other AppImages work on your computer?  
> 
> This is the first one I've tried. Do you recommend any others in
> particular?

You could try this one: https://www.balena.io/etcher/

I just wondered if your problem was with the BitWarden AppImages or
AppImages in general.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

System halted - Press all keys at once to continue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 09:43:15 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 00:42:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > > So it can work, then. I just have to work out what I'm doing wrong.
> > > > I have a support request in with them; no reply yet.
> > > 
> > > Do other AppImages work on your computer?
> > 
> > This is the first one I've tried. Do you recommend any others in
> > particular?
> 
> You could try this one: https://www.balena.io/etcher/
> 
> I just wondered if your problem was with the BitWarden AppImages or
> AppImages in general.

It turns out that BitWarden requires execution of a program in /tmp. They said 
to make sure /tmp wasn't mounted noexec!

So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to bitwarden, but 
then it threw another error. I'd better take this up with BitWarden.

Wynn Wolf Arbor suggested this explanation, but I can't find his message now. 
(Is KMail playing up again?)

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:05:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> It turns out that BitWarden requires execution of a program in /tmp.
> They said to make sure /tmp wasn't mounted noexec!
> 
> So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to
> bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up
> with BitWarden.

Have you tried remounting /tmp with exec, just to see if it works?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Pound for pound, the amoeba is the most vicious animal on the earth.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Wynn Wolf Arbor]

On 2020-06-16 12:05, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to
> bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up
> with BitWarden.

I just tried getting it to work again. If this is anything like on my
system, once the noexec problem is fixed, the app fails here because it
doesn't find libsecret. I'm not sure why this is not bundled in the
AppImage, but emerging app-crypt/libsecret fixes this for me, and I can
run the app without any further issues. I might have other libs it
depends on installed already, so I can't say for sure without looking at
the error message.

Hope that helps.

-- 
Wolf

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:40:35 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:05:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > It turns out that BitWarden requires execution of a program in /tmp.
> > They said to make sure /tmp wasn't mounted noexec!
> > 
> > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to
> > bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up
> > with BitWarden.
> 
> Have you tried remounting /tmp with exec, just to see if it works?

Yes, and it threw another error:

A JavaScript error occurred in the main process
Uncaught Exception:
Error: libsecret-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
    at process.func (electron/js2c/asar.js:138:31)
    at process.func [as dlopen] (electron/js2c/asar.js:138:31)
    at Object.Module._extensions..node (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:828:18)
    at Object.func (electron/js2c/asar.js:138:31)
    at Object.func [as .node] (electron/js2c/asar.js:147:18)
    at Module.load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:645:32)
    at Function.Module._load (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:560:12)
    at Module.require (internal/modules/cjs/loader.js:685:19)
    at require (internal/modules/cjs/helpers.js:16:16)
    at Object.<anonymous> (/home/prh/Bitwarden-1.18.0-x86_64/opt/Bitwarden/resources/app.asar/node_modules/keytar/lib/keytar.js:1:14)

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 16 June 2020 12:52:52 BST Wynn Wolf Arbor wrote:
> On 2020-06-16 12:05, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to
> > bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up
> > with BitWarden.
> 
> I just tried getting it to work again. If this is anything like on my
> system, once the noexec problem is fixed, the app fails here because it
> doesn't find libsecret. I'm not sure why this is not bundled in the
> AppImage, but emerging app-crypt/libsecret fixes this for me, and I can
> run the app without any further issues. I might have other libs it
> depends on installed already, so I can't say for sure without looking at
> the error message.
> 
> Hope that helps.

Certainly did - thanks! I'll tell them about it.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Bitwarden, anyone?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 13:52:52 +0200, Wynn Wolf Arbor wrote:

> > So I created a ~/.cache/bwtmp directory and passed TMPDIR= to
> > bitwarden, but then it threw another error. I'd better take this up
> > with BitWarden.  
> 
> I just tried getting it to work again. If this is anything like on my
> system, once the noexec problem is fixed, the app fails here because it
> doesn't find libsecret. I'm not sure why this is not bundled in the
> AppImage, but emerging app-crypt/libsecret fixes this for me, and I can
> run the app without any further issues. I might have other libs it
> depends on installed already, so I can't say for sure without looking at
> the error message.

That explains why it just worked for me. /tmp is mounted without noexec
and libsecret is already installed.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

You can't teach a new mouse old clicks.

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