* [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
@ 2014-09-13 6:56 J. Roeleveld
2014-09-13 7:49 ` Mick
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From: J. Roeleveld @ 2014-09-13 6:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi all,
I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it to always
default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or replying.
The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just enable it
for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the last
setting.
Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to take up
with KDE upstream?
Many thanks,
Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-13 6:56 [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email J. Roeleveld
@ 2014-09-13 7:49 ` Mick
2014-09-13 7:54 ` J. Roeleveld
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2014-09-13 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 07:56:50 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it to
> always default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or replying.
>
> The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just enable
> it for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the last
> setting.
>
> Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to take up
> with KDE upstream?
As far as I know it will remember the previous selection under Options in your
message editor, for all of the settings therein. It would be nice if these
could be set and honoured as a default preference under say,
Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer, then overriden on a message by message
basis using the Options in each message.
--
Regards,
Mick
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-13 7:49 ` Mick
@ 2014-09-13 7:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-09-13 21:19 ` Fernando Rodriguez
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: J. Roeleveld @ 2014-09-13 7:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 13 September 2014 09:49:19 CEST, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 07:56:50 J. Roeleveld wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it
>to
>> always default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or
>replying.
>>
>> The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just
>enable
>> it for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the
>last
>> setting.
>>
>> Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to
>take up
>> with KDE upstream?
>
>As far as I know it will remember the previous selection under Options
>in your
>message editor, for all of the settings therein. It would be nice if
>these
>could be set and honoured as a default preference under say,
>Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer, then overriden on a message by
>message
>basis using the Options in each message.
My point exactly.
I'll try to log a feature request with KDE upstream this weekend if noone comes with a working solution before then.
--
Joost
--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-13 7:54 ` J. Roeleveld
@ 2014-09-13 21:19 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2014-09-14 15:54 ` Mick
2014-09-14 19:29 ` J. Roeleveld
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Fernando Rodriguez @ 2014-09-13 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Saturday 13 September 2014 9:54:34 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On 13 September 2014 09:49:19 CEST, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 07:56:50 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it
> >to
> >> always default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or
> >replying.
> >>
> >> The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just
> >enable
> >> it for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the
> >last
> >> setting.
> >>
> >> Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to
> >take up
> >> with KDE upstream?
> >
> >As far as I know it will remember the previous selection under Options
> >in your
> >message editor, for all of the settings therein. It would be nice if
> >these
> >could be set and honoured as a default preference under say,
> >Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer, then overriden on a message by
> >message
> >basis using the Options in each message.
>
> My point exactly.
> I'll try to log a feature request with KDE upstream this weekend if noone
comes with a working solution before then.
>
> --
> Joost
>
For me the composer does remember the last setting, however unless you use any
of the formatting options it sends the message as plain text.
For replying there's the option under Composer > General to "Reply or forward
using HTML if present". If I uncheck that it always quotes the original
message using plain-text so unless I use formatting it gets sent as text.
Am I missing something?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-13 21:19 ` Fernando Rodriguez
@ 2014-09-14 15:54 ` Mick
2014-09-14 19:29 ` J. Roeleveld
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2014-09-14 15:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 22:19:17 Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Saturday 13 September 2014 9:54:34 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On 13 September 2014 09:49:19 CEST, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 07:56:50 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it
> > >
> > >to
> > >
> > >> always default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or
> > >
> > >replying.
> > >
> > >> The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just
> > >
> > >enable
> > >
> > >> it for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the
> > >
> > >last
> > >
> > >> setting.
> > >>
> > >> Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to
> > >
> > >take up
> > >
> > >> with KDE upstream?
> > >
> > >As far as I know it will remember the previous selection under Options
> > >in your
> > >message editor, for all of the settings therein. It would be nice if
> > >these
> > >could be set and honoured as a default preference under say,
> > >Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer, then overriden on a message by
> > >message
> > >basis using the Options in each message.
> >
> > My point exactly.
> > I'll try to log a feature request with KDE upstream this weekend if noone
>
> comes with a working solution before then.
>
> > --
> > Joost
>
> For me the composer does remember the last setting, however unless you use
> any of the formatting options it sends the message as plain text.
>
> For replying there's the option under Composer > General to "Reply or
> forward using HTML if present". If I uncheck that it always quotes the
> original message using plain-text so unless I use formatting it gets sent
> as text.
>
> Am I missing something?
No, good catch. I had missed that setting (it's only present in Kmail2).
--
Regards,
Mick
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-13 21:19 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2014-09-14 15:54 ` Mick
@ 2014-09-14 19:29 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-09-14 21:27 ` Fernando Rodriguez
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: J. Roeleveld @ 2014-09-14 19:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Saturday, September 13, 2014 05:19:17 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Saturday 13 September 2014 9:54:34 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On 13 September 2014 09:49:19 CEST, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 07:56:50 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it
> > >
> > >to
> > >
> > >> always default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or
> > >
> > >replying.
> > >
> > >> The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just
> > >
> > >enable
> > >
> > >> it for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the
> > >
> > >last
> > >
> > >> setting.
> > >>
> > >> Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to
> > >
> > >take up
> > >
> > >> with KDE upstream?
> > >
> > >As far as I know it will remember the previous selection under Options
> > >in your
> > >message editor, for all of the settings therein. It would be nice if
> > >these
> > >could be set and honoured as a default preference under say,
> > >Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer, then overriden on a message by
> > >message
> > >basis using the Options in each message.
> >
> > My point exactly.
> > I'll try to log a feature request with KDE upstream this weekend if noone
>
> comes with a working solution before then.
>
> > --
> > Joost
>
> For me the composer does remember the last setting, however unless you use
> any of the formatting options it sends the message as plain text.
>
> For replying there's the option under Composer > General to "Reply or
> forward using HTML if present". If I uncheck that it always quotes the
> original message using plain-text so unless I use formatting it gets sent
> as text.
>
> Am I missing something?
I'm afraid yes, as that setting has been unchecked since day 1.
There are times I actually need to send HTML emails. To do that, I need to
press the "Rich Text" button when creating the email (in the compose email
window).
That setting is then remembered the next time I send a new message or want to
reply to an email.
Usually I do remember to switch it off, but not always, as is evident when I
accidentally send an HTML email. I need an option in KMail where the "Rich
Text" button is off by default and requires enabling specifically.
--
Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-14 19:29 ` J. Roeleveld
@ 2014-09-14 21:27 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2014-09-15 6:03 ` J. Roeleveld
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Fernando Rodriguez @ 2014-09-14 21:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
It remembers the setting but even when it is turned on it only sends HTML if
you use
Rich Text formatting on the email, so you enable it by actually using rich
text.
At least that's how it works for me and I keep it on all the time.
Maybe you're doing something that uses rich text without noticing, I think
there's an option
to parse smileys (I can't check as I'm not on Kmail now) so if you got that
enabled
and type a smiley it turns HTML on?
-----Original Message-----
From: J. Roeleveld
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:29 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
On Saturday, September 13, 2014 05:19:17 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> On Saturday 13 September 2014 9:54:34 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > On 13 September 2014 09:49:19 CEST, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 07:56:50 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > >> Hi all,
> > >>
> > >> I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it
> > >
> > >to
> > >
> > >> always default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or
> > >
> > >replying.
> > >
> > >> The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just
> > >
> > >enable
> > >
> > >> it for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the
> > >
> > >last
> > >
> > >> setting.
> > >>
> > >> Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to
> > >
> > >take up
> > >
> > >> with KDE upstream?
> > >
> > >As far as I know it will remember the previous selection under Options
> > >in your
> > >message editor, for all of the settings therein. It would be nice if
> > >these
> > >could be set and honoured as a default preference under say,
> > >Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer, then overriden on a message by
> > >message
> > >basis using the Options in each message.
> >
> > My point exactly.
> > I'll try to log a feature request with KDE upstream this weekend if
> > noone
>
> comes with a working solution before then.
>
> > --
> > Joost
>
> For me the composer does remember the last setting, however unless you use
> any of the formatting options it sends the message as plain text.
>
> For replying there's the option under Composer > General to "Reply or
> forward using HTML if present". If I uncheck that it always quotes the
> original message using plain-text so unless I use formatting it gets sent
> as text.
>
> Am I missing something?
I'm afraid yes, as that setting has been unchecked since day 1.
There are times I actually need to send HTML emails. To do that, I need to
press the "Rich Text" button when creating the email (in the compose email
window).
That setting is then remembered the next time I send a new message or want
to
reply to an email.
Usually I do remember to switch it off, but not always, as is evident when I
accidentally send an HTML email. I need an option in KMail where the "Rich
Text" button is off by default and requires enabling specifically.
--
Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-14 21:27 ` Fernando Rodriguez
@ 2014-09-15 6:03 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-09-15 19:21 ` Fernando Rodriguez
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: J. Roeleveld @ 2014-09-15 6:03 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Please do NOT top-post.
On Sunday, September 14, 2014 05:27:22 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> It remembers the setting but even when it is turned on it only sends HTML if
> you use Rich Text formatting on the email, so you enable it by actually
> using rich text.
> At least that's how it works for me and I keep it on all the time.
Do you?
Can you send a screenshot of the top part of your komposer window showing all
your settings?
> Maybe you're doing something that uses rich text without noticing, I think
> there's an option
> to parse smileys (I can't check as I'm not on Kmail now) so if you got that
> enabled
> and type a smiley it turns HTML on?
I don't, actually.
When the "Rich Text" button is on, HTML is enabled, regardless of what I type.
If I were to send this email with "Rich Text" on, you would see an HTML email.
--
Joost
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J. Roeleveld
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 3:29 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
> On Saturday, September 13, 2014 05:19:17 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Saturday 13 September 2014 9:54:34 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > On 13 September 2014 09:49:19 CEST, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
> > > >On Saturday 13 Sep 2014 07:56:50 J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> I have not been able to find a setting anywhere in KMail to force it
> > > >
> > > >to
> > > >
> > > >> always default to plain-text emails when creating a new email or
> > > >
> > > >replying.
> > > >
> > > >> The few times I actually need html functionality, I prefer to just
> > > >
> > > >enable
> > > >
> > > >> it for that single email. Unfortunately, kmail tends to remember the
> > > >
> > > >last
> > > >
> > > >> setting.
> > > >>
> > > >> Is there any setting I have missed? Or is this something I need to
> > > >
> > > >take up
> > > >
> > > >> with KDE upstream?
> > > >
> > > >As far as I know it will remember the previous selection under Options
> > > >in your
> > > >message editor, for all of the settings therein. It would be nice if
> > > >these
> > > >could be set and honoured as a default preference under say,
> > > >Settings/Configure Kmail/Composer, then overriden on a message by
> > > >message
> > > >basis using the Options in each message.
> > >
> > > My point exactly.
> > > I'll try to log a feature request with KDE upstream this weekend if
> > > noone
> >
> > comes with a working solution before then.
> >
> > > --
> > > Joost
> >
> > For me the composer does remember the last setting, however unless you use
> > any of the formatting options it sends the message as plain text.
> >
> > For replying there's the option under Composer > General to "Reply or
> > forward using HTML if present". If I uncheck that it always quotes the
> > original message using plain-text so unless I use formatting it gets sent
> > as text.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
>
> I'm afraid yes, as that setting has been unchecked since day 1.
>
> There are times I actually need to send HTML emails. To do that, I need to
> press the "Rich Text" button when creating the email (in the compose email
> window).
>
> That setting is then remembered the next time I send a new message or want
> to
> reply to an email.
> Usually I do remember to switch it off, but not always, as is evident when I
> accidentally send an HTML email. I need an option in KMail where the "Rich
> Text" button is off by default and requires enabling specifically.
>
> --
> Joost
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing kmail to always default to NON-html email
2014-09-15 6:03 ` J. Roeleveld
@ 2014-09-15 19:21 ` Fernando Rodriguez
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Fernando Rodriguez @ 2014-09-15 19:21 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Monday 15 September 2014 8:03:50 AM J. Roeleveld wrote:
> Please do NOT top-post.
>
> On Sunday, September 14, 2014 05:27:22 PM Fernando Rodriguez wrote:
> > It remembers the setting but even when it is turned on it only sends HTML
if
> > you use Rich Text formatting on the email, so you enable it by actually
> > using rich text.
> > At least that's how it works for me and I keep it on all the time.
>
> Do you?
> Can you send a screenshot of the top part of your komposer window showing
all
Ok. The attachment shows the settings I'm using to send this message.
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