From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9CEB815815E for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 68593E29FA; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw2.antarean.org (gw2.antarean.org [141.105.125.208]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE2DBE29D8 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TTpGQ1c14z8scJ for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:14:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from gw2.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gw2.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id di4y91haRWXN for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailstore1.adm.antarean.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TTpGP4cZ2z8sb4 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailstore1.adm.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TTpGP3qKLz15 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:14:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from mailstore1.adm.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mailstore1.adm.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OD8CszcMaIfp for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from iris.localnet (iris.adm.antarean.org [10.55.16.47]) by mailstore1.adm.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 4TTpFv6TJXz1M for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 16:13:39 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=antarean.org; s=default; t=1707236019; bh=c2QApuGbpulEEpHfeEamyINrxqGvA0Ca7A/f/C4mV8s=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=hf0neuVb+lw67jE2yBN55BaAmZSiqvGGnUpx6hjv9z/8Azu8o6592Il2h8Ug6PH2C Y9zO9Vw0IW1jAMF4oqgA/se4gpq8dx4WJkPDDdjgYnf40EfoW52lpNKHY14Gqts5Us v26RtvMNGDBafXqajZVTnjWwy57mRF9/I3Xrhd0U= From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme? Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2024 17:13:39 +0100 Message-ID: <12384456.O9o76ZdvQC@iris> In-Reply-To: References: <13464302.uLZWGnKmhe@iris> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 05ef383a-0f44-40d4-9d94-4cf7da4d9c4b X-Archives-Hash: 1dfb715a57c623aec71fac9442bb0fae On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 4:38:11 PM CET Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-02-05, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40=E2=80=AFPM Thelma wrote: > >> > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. > >> > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux? > >>=20 > >> The main barrier is that its license isn't GPL-compatible. It is > >> FOSS, but the license was basically designed to keep it from being > >> incorporated into the mainline kernel. > >=20 > > Which isn't as much of an issue as it sounds. You can still add it > > into the initramfs and can easily load the module. >=20 > What if you don't use an initrd? >=20 > I presume that boot/root on ext4 and home on ZFS would not require an > initrd? Yes, that wouldn't require an initrd. But why would you limit this? ZFS works best when given the FULL drive. =46or my server, I use "bliss-initramfs" to generate the initramfs and have= not=20 had any issues with this since I started using ZFS. Especially the ease of generating snapshots also make it really easy to rol= l=20 back an update if anything went wrong. If your root-partition isn't on ZFS,= =20 you can't easily roll back. =2D- Joost