From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LSNe9-00088y-2X for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:32:53 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D664E030B; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:32:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.esteem.com (owt-64-146-239-67.owt.com [64.146.239.67]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153FAE030B for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.32.9] ([::ffff:172.16.32.9]) (AUTH: LOGIN tbrown, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,256bits,AES256-SHA) by mail.esteem.com with esmtp; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:32:49 -0800 id 0001FD39.49812361.0000468C Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo mail server From: Tom Brown To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <497FBC7D.2080801@badapple.net> References: <1233088701.24106.612.camel@brown.esteem.com> <497FBC7D.2080801@badapple.net> Organization: ESTeem Wireless Modems Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:32:48 -0800 Message-Id: <1233199968.24106.698.camel@brown.esteem.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 X-Archives-Salt: 80078f24-985c-4ac9-b0ed-624fc3049e8a X-Archives-Hash: 1c88fa2cb9fd28e4235afb26b2db642f Freakin awesome guys! Thank you very much for your replies. This is what I got out of it: 1) Gentoo evolves. There are no major upgrades. This is a huge "go with gentoo" point. I've never seen an operating system that didn't have issues after a major upgrade. This means an updated system with gentoo, all the time. No 'reinstall from scratch' every two years. Oh yeah, I've got software that won't work after a major upgrade. 2) Gentoo requires attention. These are production servers I'm talking about. What sysadmin doesn't check in their production servers on regular basis? Yeah, I check in the the debian servers all the time. That's on top of the automated emails I get reporting on the health of the system. Ok, I don't have to do anything to them. So, I'll have to be carefully before doing an update. I don't see that as too much to ask if I don't have to reinstall from scratch! Thanks guys! Tom