From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JhZnN-0001S9-0g for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:28:41 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 018F6E04B6; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 00:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.netspace.net.au (mail-out4.netspace.net.au [203.10.110.77]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A112DE04B6 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 00:28:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.16.0.52] (ppp246-231.static.internode.on.net [203.122.246.231]) by mail.netspace.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB9E37F672 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2008 11:28:37 +1100 (EST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Emergency shutdown, how to? From: Iain Buchanan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1441927.enUePkHcfs@schmarck.cn> References: <47EC9F50.5070503@bellsouth.net> <200804021549.15550.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> <3297039.CL3N7pcUCC@schmarck.cn> <200804021628.29507.dirk.heinrichs.ext@nsn.com> <28748152.K45aiMzFyV@michael-schmarck.my-fqdn.de> <20080402184829.1c6d2b9c@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> <1553534.UVy0cUBWZg@schmarck.cn> <20080403094113.64eaa6c5@loonquawl.digimed.co.uk> <1441927.enUePkHcfs@schmarck.cn> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 09:58:01 +0930 Message-Id: <1207268881.13048.4.camel@orpheus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b571653e-1649-447b-a718-6e2264d1643f X-Archives-Hash: 9f4518ed1c75916375cf01e55e0f1df0 On Thu, 2008-04-03 at 10:56 +0200, Michael Schmarck wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > Emergency shutdowns aren't about > > eliminating any problems in the case of a serious system hang, they are > > about minimising such damage. > > Absolutely correct! But Liviu asked, if there's a potential risk > to the system. > > My answer is: Yes, there is! It is pretty low (for the reasons > you mentioned), but it is not 0. The risk is not 0, but the risk is not greater than "doing nothing", in fact the risk of an emergency shutdown is less than "doing nothing", given the fact that this is an emergency, and if you do nothing, you will probably have greater problems (file system corruption, etc). -- Iain Buchanan I read the newspaper avidly. It is my one form of continuous fiction. -- Aneurin Bevan -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list