[gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Michael Higgins]

I use Gnome ['gnome-light'] as my WM.

For the past few months (many months) I've had the 'gnome-panel' lock
up on me. Nothing is clearly causing this. Rebuilding has not seemed to
help. Of course, what to rebuild? Everything?

I've adopted the strategy of kill -INT and (next time) kill -HUP (and
repeat). This gets me working again 98% of the time. This is slightly
better than rebooting every time you have a problem. Slightly.

So, of course I have a lot of questions. Anyone know what is going on?
Anyone know how I can find out what is going on? Adding a gig and a
half of ram didn't change the behaviour. Changing video cards didn't
either.

(And I don't want to trash my .gnome* folders in a WAG at a fix. I have
customization that will disappear. Again.)

Finally, I'd like to just get the PID of gnome panel in a one-liner to
send to kill, if I can't get this fixed. Can anyone volunteer a
"gimme only the PID" one-liner?

[ And why does it always complain about not finding GDM... when was that
required? I've never used it, nor wanted it. I want the warnings to go
away! ]

Any replies appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Alan McKinnon]

On Monday 25 February 2008, Michael Higgins wrote:

> Finally, I'd like to just get the PID of gnome panel in a one-liner
> to send to kill, if I can't get this fixed. Can anyone volunteer a
> "gimme only the PID" one-liner?

killall gnome-panel

edit 'gnome-panel' as appropriate to make it whatever the binary is 
actually called.

Also look at pidof from sys-apps/sysvinit


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Re: [gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

On Montag, 25. Februar 2008, Michael Higgins wrote:

as Alan wrote killall is your friend. It does not need a pid.

pidof can tell you the name of an app.

And with strace you can look for yourself where gnome-panel hangs.
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Re: [gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Iain Buchanan]

On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:15 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:
> I use Gnome ['gnome-light'] as my WM.
> 
> For the past few months (many months) I've had the 'gnome-panel' lock
> up on me. Nothing is clearly causing this. Rebuilding has not seemed to
> help. Of course, what to rebuild? Everything?

:(

> (And I don't want to trash my .gnome* folders in a WAG at a fix. I have
> customization that will disappear. Again.)

Make a new user with default .blah files.  Does it happen for the new
user?  If so, start singling them out one by one... yes it's tedious.

> [ And why does it always complain about not finding GDM... when was that
> required? I've never used it, nor wanted it. I want the warnings to go
> away! ]

who's "it"?
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Re: [gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Stroller]

On 26 Feb 2008, at 04:18, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:15 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:
>
>> (And I don't want to trash my .gnome* folders in a WAG at a fix. I  
>> have
>> customization that will disappear. Again.)
>
> Make a new user with default .blah files.  Does it happen for the new
> user?  If so, start singling them out one by one... yes it's tedious.

Can't he just `rename .gnome .gnome.old .gnome*`?

Stroller.
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Re: [gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Michael Higgins]

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:02:58 +0000
Stroller <stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:

> 
> On 26 Feb 2008, at 04:18, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:15 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:
> >
> >> (And I don't want to trash my .gnome* folders in a WAG at a fix.
> >> I have
> >> customization that will disappear. Again.)
> >
> > Make a new user with default .blah files.  Does it happen for the
> > new user?  If so, start singling them out one by one... yes it's
> > tedious.
> 
> Can't he just `rename .gnome .gnome.old .gnome*`?
> 
> Stroller.

All, thanks for the info. I'll have to learn a bit of strace, I guess.

No magic bullet, is what I find. Could this 


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Re: [gentoo-user] killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Iain Buchanan]

On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 13:02 +0000, Stroller wrote:
> On 26 Feb 2008, at 04:18, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:15 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:
> >
> >> (And I don't want to trash my .gnome* folders in a WAG at a fix. I  
> >> have
> >> customization that will disappear. Again.)
> >
> > Make a new user with default .blah files.  Does it happen for the new
> > user?  If so, start singling them out one by one... yes it's tedious.
> 
> Can't he just `rename .gnome .gnome.old .gnome*`?

probably, but I can never remember what .dirs are used by what programs,
so making a new user is a safe option.  Also, I don't know what gconf
schemas might be set for this user, and if they're stored in ~/ or not.

cya,
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[gentoo-user] Re: killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[Hans de Graaff]

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:15:22 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:

> I use Gnome ['gnome-light'] as my WM.
> 
> For the past few months (many months) I've had the 'gnome-panel' lock up
> on me. Nothing is clearly causing this. Rebuilding has not seemed to
> help. Of course, what to rebuild? Everything?

I've seen this issue a few times and found that the esound daemon was to 
blame. Killing just that got things back in a workeable state again.

Kind regards,

Hans

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: killing gnome light - pathetic cry for help.

[W.Kenworthy]

emerge gnome-panel and gnome-applets

BillK


On Wed, 2008-03-05 at 07:12 +0100, Hans de Graaff wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:15:22 -0800, Michael Higgins wrote:
> 
> > I use Gnome ['gnome-light'] as my WM.
> > 
> > For the past few months (many months) I've had the 'gnome-panel' lock up
> > on me. Nothing is clearly causing this. Rebuilding has not seemed to
> > help. Of course, what to rebuild? Everything?
> 
> I've seen this issue a few times and found that the esound daemon was to 
> blame. Killing just that got things back in a workeable state again.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Hans
> 
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