[gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Mark Knecht]

Hi,
   On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her
machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very
boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:

Why miss out?
To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a
more recent browser.

Supported browsers include:
Internet Explorer 7 optimized by Yahoo!
Firefox 2.0
Safari 2.0
Opera 9

   Are others seeing the same thing?

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Justin]

Mark Knecht schrieb:
> Hi,
>    On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
> today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her
> machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very
> boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:
>
> Why miss out?
> To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a
> more recent browser.
>
> Supported browsers include:
> *Internet Explorer 7 optimized by Yahoo!*
>   
Maybe you need windows for that!!
> Firefox 2.0
> Safari 2.0
> Opera 9
>
>    Are others seeing the same thing?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>   
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Brian Marshall]

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On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 03:32:47 -0800
"Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>    On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
> today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her
> machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very
> boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:
> 
> Why miss out?
> To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a
> more recent browser.
> 
> Supported browsers include:
> Internet Explorer 7 optimized by Yahoo!
> Firefox 2.0
> Safari 2.0
> Opera 9
> 
>    Are others seeing the same thing?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark
I just checked for you, and I got the same page using the Firefox 3
trunk. This is why discriminating based on user-agent is a Bad Thing,
Yahoo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Mark Knecht]

On Jan 3, 2008 5:17 AM, Brian Marshall <snail@beyondboredom.net> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 03:32:47 -0800
> "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >    On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
> > today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her
> > machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very
> > boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:
> >
> > Why miss out?
> > To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a
> > more recent browser.
> >
> > Supported browsers include:
> > Internet Explorer 7 optimized by Yahoo!
> > Firefox 2.0
> > Safari 2.0
> > Opera 9
> >
> >    Are others seeing the same thing?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> I just checked for you, and I got the same page using the Firefox 3
> trunk. This is why discriminating based on user-agent is a Bad Thing,
> Yahoo.
>
> --
>   Brian Marshall
>

Brian,
   Thanks for checking.

   I don't think it's Yahoo. I think it's Gentoo 32-bit.

   My desktop machine is Gentoo 64-bit using 2.0.0.11 and it's working
perfectly fine.

- Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Mark Knecht]

On Jan 3, 2008 2:57 PM, Brian Marshall <snail@beyondboredom.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 06:47:42 -0800
>
> "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 3, 2008 5:17 AM, Brian Marshall <snail@beyondboredom.net>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 03:32:47 -0800
> > > "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >    On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
> > > > today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On
> > > > her machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a
> > > > very boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:
> > > >
> > > > Why miss out?
> > > > To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade
> > > > to a more recent browser.
> > > >
> > > > Supported browsers include:
> > > > Internet Explorer 7 optimized by Yahoo!
> > > > Firefox 2.0
> > > > Safari 2.0
> > > > Opera 9
> > > >
> > > >    Are others seeing the same thing?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mark
> > > I just checked for you, and I got the same page using the Firefox 3
> > > trunk. This is why discriminating based on user-agent is a Bad
> > > Thing, Yahoo.
> > >
> > > --
> > >   Brian Marshall
> > >
> >
> > Brian,
> >    Thanks for checking.
> >
> >    I don't think it's Yahoo. I think it's Gentoo 32-bit.
> >
> >    My desktop machine is Gentoo 64-bit using 2.0.0.11 and it's working
> > perfectly fine.
> >
> > - Mark
> That's odd then. I just tried again and I'm still blocked, even after
> clearing cookies and throwing "Firefox" in my user-agent.
>
> I'm on 32-bit with a vanilla Firefox 3 from the Mozilla trunk.
> Hopefully Yahoo will wise up and realize the concept of "supported
> browsers" is absurd.
>
> --
>   Brian Marshall
>

Yeah, my wife's 32-bit machine is still blocked. My son's 32-bit
machine which hasn't been updated yet is still fine as is my 64-bit
machine.

Logically so far I do think it's a Gentoo problem. If it was specific
to some Yahoo server that my house is pointed at it would have been at
least consistent on my wife's & son's machines, or so I think.

Strange problem.

Maybe it's a USE flags issue of some type. I'll do a comparison.

Note that today my wife is reporting a few new problems with the Gnome
update itself so maybe there is some larger issue. I've done a
revdep-rebuild on her machine. I've not finished all of the emerge
-DuN world updates yet but it's probably 95% done.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Randy Barlow]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> Logically so far I do think it's a Gentoo problem. If it was specific
> to some Yahoo server that my house is pointed at it would have been at
> least consistent on my wife's & son's machines, or so I think.

I already posted this, but I am using the same version of Firefox (and
also in Gnome, though I doubt that matters) and don't see this problem.
 Are you using firefox-bin instead of building it?  Any funny settings
in about:config?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[kashani]

Mark Knecht wrote:
> Yeah, my wife's 32-bit machine is still blocked. My son's 32-bit
> machine which hasn't been updated yet is still fine as is my 64-bit
> machine.
> 
> Logically so far I do think it's a Gentoo problem. If it was specific
> to some Yahoo server that my house is pointed at it would have been at
> least consistent on my wife's & son's machines, or so I think.
> 
> Strange problem.

What's the exact URL you have set for your homepage? I'll be able to 
track down which team to poke if I have that.

kashani, works at Yahoo.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Walter Dnes]

On Thu, Jan 03, 2008 at 06:47:42AM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote

>    I don't think it's Yahoo. I think it's Gentoo 32-bit.
> 
>    My desktop machine is Gentoo 64-bit using 2.0.0.11 and it's working
> perfectly fine.

  I wonder if it's because Yahoo is checking for user-agent.  They may
allow Firefox, but not "Iceweasel", which is the default branding for
Firefox in Gentoo.
[...snip long involved story about Open Source licencing politics...]
  Try adding the line...

www-client/mozilla-firefox -iceweasel

...to /etc/package.use and recompiling Firefox.  As a quick-n-dirty, if
you have the "User Agent Switcher" extension installed, try setting your
user agent string to...

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071229 Firefox/2.0.0.11

  May do the trick.  While we're at it, adding the line...

www-client/mozilla-firefox moznopango

...to /etc/package.use and recompiling Firefox will speed it up.  The
tradeoff is that you can't display Chinese/Japanese/Cyrillic text if
your Firefox is set to display English.  Apparently, "pango" paints the
text characters dot-by-dot.  This makes it more versatile, allowing it
to display multiple character sets at once.  But it obviously slows
Firefox down.  Your choice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Albert Hopkins]

On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 05:17 -0800, Brian Marshall wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 03:32:47 -0800
> "Mark Knecht" <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >    On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
> > today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her
> > machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very
> > boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:
> > 
> > Why miss out?
> > To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a
> > more recent browser.
> > 
> > Supported browsers include:
> > Internet Explorer 7 optimized by Yahoo!
> > Firefox 2.0
> > Safari 2.0
> > Opera 9
> > 
> >    Are others seeing the same thing?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> I just checked for you, and I got the same page using the Firefox 3
> trunk. This is why discriminating based on user-agent is a Bad Thing,
> Yahoo.

I think they fixed it.  When I checked earlier this morning using
Epiphany 2.20 I got the same page, but now the "regular" page shows up.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Randy Barlow]

Mark Knecht wrote:
>    On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
> today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her
> machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very
> boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:
> 
> Why miss out?
> To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a
> more recent browser.

I use Firefox on a 32-bit system (built from source, not binary) and I
do not see this problem!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[cypherstrong]

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The main probleme could be that they use firefox 3 and yahoo are not ready so 
they prefer to cancel this navigator whereas accept it anyway

Iceaweasel it's not a problem, they just add and extra user agent in 
about:config (agent ... extra)

But I have it without any problem with yahoo service on firefox 2

That's for the tips on pango any way, I will try it

Le Thursday 03 January 2008 20:17:04 Randy Barlow, vous avez écrit :
> Mark Knecht wrote:
> >    On my wife's 32-bit Gentoo machine we did a large Gnome update
> > today which ended up doing Firefox-2.0.0.11 at the same time. On her
> > machine I happen to use Yahoo as my home page and now I see a very
> > boring home page with Yahoo giving me this message:
> >
> > Why miss out?
> > To see all the new Yahoo! home page has to offer, please upgrade to a
> > more recent browser.
>
> I use Firefox on a 32-bit system (built from source, not binary) and I
> do not see this problem!
>
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> Randy Barlow
> http://electronsweatshop.com



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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox update results in Yahoo request for newer version

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 6:21 AM, cypherstrong <cypherstrong@gmail.com> wrote:
> The main probleme could be that they use firefox 3 and yahoo are not ready so
>  they prefer to cancel this navigator whereas accept it anyway
>
>  Iceaweasel it's not a problem, they just add and extra user agent in
>  about:config (agent ... extra)
>
>  But I have it without any problem with yahoo service on firefox 2
>
>  That's for the tips on pango any way, I will try it
>
<SNIP>
>

This is an old thread. The problem cleared up after a couple of days,
maybe Jan. 7th or 8th IIRC. It is no longer a problem here.

Thanks,
Mark
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