[gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Matthias Langer]

i'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, or even better, a
solution for it:

since i've upgraded to gnome-2.18.x i have to start metacity manually at
least sometimes after logging in. that is, in about 1 of 4 logins, i
don't have a usable desktop till i type "metacity" into some terminal.

apart from this annoying behavior, gnome seems to be fine.

here are some parts of my configuration:
"
$ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.3.9 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.22-gentoo-r8 x86_64)
[...]
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
[...]
USE="3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2
cairo caps cddb cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread
eds emboss encode evo exif fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran gd gdbm gif
gimp gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk hal hddtemp iconv icu ipod ipv6
isdnlog java jpeg jpeg2k lcms ldap libnotify lm_sensors mad matroska
midi mikmod mmap mmx mmxext mono mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl
nptlonly nvidia ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl plotutils png pppd
python qt3support quicktime readline reflection ruby sdl session spell
spl sse sse2 ssl ssse3 svg tcpd tetex theora threads tiff truetype
truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb vcd vorbis xattr xml xorg xv xvid
zlib" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty
extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi
null plug rate route share shm softvol" CAMERAS="canon konica ptp2
kodak" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux"
[...]
"

i'm using:

x11-wm/metacity-2.18.5  USE="-debug -xinerama"
x11-libs/gtk+-2.10.14  USE="X jpeg tiff -debug -doc -xinerama"
gnome-base/gnome-session-2.18.3  USE="ipv6 tcpd -branding -debug -esd"
gnome-base/gnome-light-2.18.3

also note, that the system i'm using has been installed from scratch
just a bit more than a month ago and i'm having this problem ever since.

thanks,
matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Hex Star]

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You should take note of the error message that occurs when you experience
this problem and paste the error msg here

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Re: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Matthias Langer]

On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 17:25 -0700, Hex Star wrote:
> You should take note of the error message that occurs when you
> experience this problem and paste the error msg here

well, that would be indeed a very good idea; however, i don't start
gnome from a terminal but from gdm and i don't know where to look for
error messages in this case...

maybe i can see if the problem can be reproduced by using "startx" and
maybe i get some error messages there... 

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Re: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Michael Sullivan]

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 01:50 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote:
> i'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, or even better, a
> solution for it:
> 
> since i've upgraded to gnome-2.18.x i have to start metacity manually at
> least sometimes after logging in. that is, in about 1 of 4 logins, i
> don't have a usable desktop till i type "metacity" into some terminal.
> 
> apart from this annoying behavior, gnome seems to be fine.
> 
> here are some parts of my configuration:
> "
> $ emerge --info
> Portage 2.1.3.9 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2,
> glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.22-gentoo-r8 x86_64)
> [...]
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
> CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
> CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe"
> CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
> [...]
> USE="3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2
> cairo caps cddb cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread
> eds emboss encode evo exif fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran gd gdbm gif
> gimp gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk hal hddtemp iconv icu ipod ipv6
> isdnlog java jpeg jpeg2k lcms ldap libnotify lm_sensors mad matroska
> midi mikmod mmap mmx mmxext mono mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl
> nptlonly nvidia ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl plotutils png pppd
> python qt3support quicktime readline reflection ruby sdl session spell
> spl sse sse2 ssl ssse3 svg tcpd tetex theora threads tiff truetype
> truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb vcd vorbis xattr xml xorg xv xvid
> zlib" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty
> extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi
> null plug rate route share shm softvol" CAMERAS="canon konica ptp2
> kodak" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev" KERNEL="linux"
> [...]
> "
> 
> i'm using:
> 
> x11-wm/metacity-2.18.5  USE="-debug -xinerama"
> x11-libs/gtk+-2.10.14  USE="X jpeg tiff -debug -doc -xinerama"
> gnome-base/gnome-session-2.18.3  USE="ipv6 tcpd -branding -debug -esd"
> gnome-base/gnome-light-2.18.3
> 
> also note, that the system i'm using has been installed from scratch
> just a bit more than a month ago and i'm having this problem ever since.
> 
> thanks,
> matthias
> 
I had this problem and solved it by deleting ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 and
~/.gnome2_private

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AW: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Zimmerling, Alexander]

>> I had this problem and solved it by deleting ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 and
~/.gnome2_private


Hi, I have the same problem here. Deleting the files help, but not for
long. After 3-4 Logins without any problem, the problem returns.



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Re: AW: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Matthias Langer]

On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 08:40 +0200, Zimmerling, Alexander wrote:
> >> I had this problem and solved it by deleting ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 and
> ~/.gnome2_private
> 

hmm, although i've installed gentoo only about 2 month ago, i don't want
to loose all my personal settings; i've created a new user - and it
seems to work there - but maybe only because i've never really *used*
this account...

i'm already thinking about solving this problem in a very hackish way:
by writing a script that is called on startup and eventually starts
metacity for me...

hopefully i find a better solution.
 
> 
> Hi, I have the same problem here. Deleting the files help, but not for
> long. After 3-4 Logins without any problem, the problem returns.
> 

yes, and i fear that the same would happen to me :-/.

regards,
matthias

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AW: AW: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Zimmerling, Alexander]

Hi,

I ried this 'solution' just one time. Unfortunately, I installed a lot of programs during the time. This problem appeared after upgrading gnome to the latest stable version. I had no problems at all by using gnome 2.16.

I used a unstable version of gnome-2.18 once and downgraded because of this problem. Nobody able to solve this problem.

Matthias, can you post your 'very hackish way' please

kind regards

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Von: Matthias Langer [mailto:mlangc@gmx.at] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2007 14:10
An: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
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On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 08:40 +0200, Zimmerling, Alexander wrote:
> >> I had this problem and solved it by deleting ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 and
> ~/.gnome2_private
> 

hmm, although i've installed gentoo only about 2 month ago, i don't want to loose all my personal settings; i've created a new user - and it seems to work there - but maybe only because i've never really *used* this account...

i'm already thinking about solving this problem in a very hackish way:
by writing a script that is called on startup and eventually starts metacity for me...

hopefully i find a better solution.
 
> 
> Hi, I have the same problem here. Deleting the files help, but not for 
> long. After 3-4 Logins without any problem, the problem returns.
> 

yes, and i fear that the same would happen to me :-/.

regards,
matthias

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Re: AW: AW: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Matthias Langer]

On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 14:56 +0200, Zimmerling, Alexander wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I ried this 'solution' just one time. Unfortunately, I installed a lot of programs during the time. This problem appeared after upgrading gnome to the latest stable version. I had no problems at all by using gnome 2.16.
> 
> I used a unstable version of gnome-2.18 once and downgraded because of this problem. Nobody able to solve this problem.
> 
> Matthias, can you post your 'very hackish way' please

well, it's nothing special:

"
#!/bin/bash
! ps -u $(whoami) | grep metacity &> /dev/null && metacity&
"

put this in a file somewhere in your home directory, make it executable
and add it to "Startup Programs" in "Sessions"...

this does the trick at least for me...

regards,
matthias


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Re: AW: AW: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Matthias Langer]

On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 22:31 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 14:56 +0200, Zimmerling, Alexander wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I ried this 'solution' just one time. Unfortunately, I installed a lot of programs during the time. This problem appeared after upgrading gnome to the latest stable version. I had no problems at all by using gnome 2.16.
> > 
> > I used a unstable version of gnome-2.18 once and downgraded because of this problem. Nobody able to solve this problem.
> > 
> > Matthias, can you post your 'very hackish way' please
> 
> well, it's nothing special:
> 
> "
> #!/bin/bash
> ! ps -u $(whoami) | grep metacity &> /dev/null && metacity&
> "
> 
> put this in a file somewhere in your home directory, make it executable
> and add it to "Startup Programs" in "Sessions"...
> 

or, if you want it more verbose:

"
#!/bin/bash

LOGFILE="${HOME}/meta.log"
COMPLAIN="metacity was not started by gnome"

ps -u $(whoami) | grep metacity &> /dev/null
if [[ $? -ne 0 ]]; then
        echo "$(date): $COMPLAIN" >> $LOGFILE
        metacity&
fi
"

matthias

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[don]

> #!/bin/bash
> ! ps -u $(whoami) | grep metacity &> /dev/null && metacity&

I have been seeing this problem for some time too.  Can someone suggest
where to look for error messages?  I've looked in the places I know
about.

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AW: AW: AW: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start

[Zimmerling, Alexander]

Hi,

thanks for the reply, I'll try this, when I'm home this evening


On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 22:31 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-09 at 14:56 +0200, Zimmerling, Alexander wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I ried this 'solution' just one time. Unfortunately, I installed a
lot of programs during the time. This problem appeared after upgrading
gnome to the latest stable version. I had no problems at all by using
gnome 2.16.
> > 
> > I used a unstable version of gnome-2.18 once and downgraded because
of this problem. Nobody able to solve this problem.
> > 
> > Matthias, can you post your 'very hackish way' please
> 
> well, it's nothing special:
> 
> "
> #!/bin/bash
> ! ps -u $(whoami) | grep metacity &> /dev/null && metacity& "
> 
> put this in a file somewhere in your home directory, make it 
> executable and add it to "Startup Programs" in "Sessions"...
> 

or, if you want it more verbose:

"
#!/bin/bash

LOGFILE="${HOME}/meta.log"
COMPLAIN="metacity was not started by gnome"

ps -u $(whoami) | grep metacity &> /dev/null if [[ $? -ne 0 ]]; then
        echo "$(date): $COMPLAIN" >> $LOGFILE
        metacity&
fi
"

matthias

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