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* [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites
@ 2007-09-15 15:43 Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan
  2007-09-15 16:23 ` darren kirby
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From: Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan @ 2007-09-15 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Hi all,
   
  This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS
   
  Thanks and Regards
   
  Bala

       
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 Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now

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* Re: [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-15 15:43 [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan
@ 2007-09-15 16:23 ` darren kirby
  2007-09-15 16:28 ` Alan McKinnon
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From: darren kirby @ 2007-09-15 16:23 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

quoth the Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan:
> Hi all,
>
>   This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up a
> browsing centre based on Gentoo OS
>
>   Thanks and Regards
>
>   Bala

Try Dans's Guardian...or just Squid (proxy server) will work as well.

-d
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-15 15:43 [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan
  2007-09-15 16:23 ` darren kirby
@ 2007-09-15 16:28 ` Alan McKinnon
  2007-09-16 10:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
  2007-09-16 11:52 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2007-09-15 16:28 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Saturday 15 September 2007, Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up
> a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS

squid

If you want an interface that is easier to use than editing squid's conf 
file, there are several front ends to choose from. You could start with 
squidguard

You probably want to stay away from directly using iptables for this, as 
blocking site access based on ip address gets you into very big amounts 
of trouble very quickly. Think virtual hosting here.


alan



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* [gentoo-user]  Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-15 15:43 [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan
  2007-09-15 16:23 ` darren kirby
  2007-09-15 16:28 ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2007-09-16 10:42 ` Alexander Skwar
  2007-09-16 11:31   ` Alan McKinnon
  2007-09-16 11:52 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Skwar @ 2007-09-16 10:42 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

· Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan <vbnath1981@yahoo.co.in>:

> Hi all,
>    
>   This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS

Forget about it. There are far too many open proxies out
there, like my own at <http://alexander.skwar.name/~askwar/stuff/proxy/>.
Blacklists don't work.

BTW: This has nothing at all to do with Gentoo.

Alexander Skwar
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simple system that works.


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* Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 10:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
@ 2007-09-16 11:31   ` Alan McKinnon
  2007-09-16 13:17     ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2007-09-16 11:31 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sunday 16 September 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> · Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan <vbnath1981@yahoo.co.in>:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >   This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set
> > up a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS
>
> Forget about it. There are far too many open proxies out
> there, like my own at
> <http://alexander.skwar.name/~askwar/stuff/proxy/>

/me makes a mental note to bookmark this

/me makes another note to buy Alexander a beer next time I go to Europe

:-)

alan


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* Re: [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-15 15:43 [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2007-09-16 10:42 ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
@ 2007-09-16 11:52 ` Dale
  2007-09-16 12:13   ` William Kenworthy
  2007-09-16 13:10   ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2007-09-16 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan wrote:
> Hi all,
>  
> This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up a
> browsing centre based on Gentoo OS
>  
> Thanks and Regards
>  
> Bala
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now
> <http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_mail_2/*http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/>


Could you not add the sites to your hosts file and point them back to local?

Dale

:-)  :-)

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* Re: [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 11:52 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale
@ 2007-09-16 12:13   ` William Kenworthy
  2007-09-16 12:27     ` William Kenworthy
  2007-09-16 13:10   ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: William Kenworthy @ 2007-09-16 12:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 06:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
> Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan wrote: 
> > Hi all,
> >  
> > This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up
> > a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS
> >  
> > Thanks and Regards
> >  
> > Bala
> > 
> > ____________________________________________________________________
> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now
> 
> Could you not add the sites to your hosts file and point them back to
> local?
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)

http://everthingisnt.com/hosts.html

:)

BillK

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* Re: [gentoo-user] [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 12:13   ` William Kenworthy
@ 2007-09-16 12:27     ` William Kenworthy
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From: William Kenworthy @ 2007-09-16 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 20:13 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote:
> On Sun, 2007-09-16 at 06:52 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan wrote: 
> > > Hi all,
> > >  
> > > This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up
> > > a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS
> > >  
> > > Thanks and Regards
> > >  
> > > Bala
> > > 
> > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now
> > 
> > Could you not add the sites to your hosts file and point them back to
> > local?
> > 
> > Dale
> > 
> > :-)  :-)
> 

Sorry, spelling mistake ...

http://everythingisnt.com/hosts.html

:(

> :)
> 
> BillK
> 
> -- 
> William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
> Home in Perth!
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* [gentoo-user]  Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 11:52 ` [gentoo-user] " Dale
  2007-09-16 12:13   ` William Kenworthy
@ 2007-09-16 13:10   ` Alexander Skwar
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Skwar @ 2007-09-16 13:10 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

· Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net>:

> Could you not add the sites to your hosts file and point them back to local?

No. This won't hinder a user from accessing a proxy site
and have that site fetch and display the content. Check
out one of the MANY MANY proxy sites at http://proxy.org/.

Alexander Skwar
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        [To the stars by aspiration.]


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* [gentoo-user]  Re: Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 11:31   ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2007-09-16 13:17     ` Alexander Skwar
  2007-09-16 14:49       ` Alan McKinnon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alexander Skwar @ 2007-09-16 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

· Alan McKinnon <alan@linuxholdings.co.za>:

> On Sunday 16 September 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
>> · Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan <vbnath1981@yahoo.co.in>:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> >   This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set
>> > up a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS
>>
>> Forget about it. There are far too many open proxies out
>> there, like my own at
>> <http://alexander.skwar.name/~askwar/stuff/proxy/>
> 
> /me makes a mental note to bookmark this

Feel free to use it. No guarantees about performance, though ;)

> /me makes another note to buy Alexander a beer next time I go to Europe
> 
> :-)

*g* Thanks.

One important thing to note, though. It's important to remember
that the proxy operator could easily sniff all the traffic that's
going through the proxy. The proxy needs to be able to read the
traffic. 

Now, I swear that *I* am not going to log any traffic going
through my system. But you've gotta decide if you trust me...

On a larger note, exactly this question was the reason for the
recent "tor problem", cf. <http://www.derangedsecurity.com/time-to-reveal%e2%80%a6/>
or <http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/11/1730258>.

Cheers,

Alexander Skwar

PS: *LOL* My signature is random. I _swear_ :)
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* Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 13:17     ` [gentoo-user] " Alexander Skwar
@ 2007-09-16 14:49       ` Alan McKinnon
  2007-09-16 15:19         ` [ot] " Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2007-09-16 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Sunday 16 September 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote:
> One important thing to note, though. It's important to remember
> that the proxy operator could easily sniff all the traffic that's
> going through the proxy. The proxy needs to be able to read the
> traffic.

Thanks :-)

I don't need to use your proxy though but it is nice to have an one 
available in meetings with some half-wit admins who insist they can 
block anything/anytime/anywhere. When that happens I can never 
remember/find one fast enough to have the full devastating impact that 
I seek....

alan


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Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
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* [ot] Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 14:49       ` Alan McKinnon
@ 2007-09-16 15:19         ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
  2007-09-16 19:17           ` Hans-Werner Hilse
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman @ 2007-09-16 15:19 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Alan McKinnon wrote:
> I don't need to use your proxy though but it is nice to have an one 
> available in meetings with some half-wit admins who insist they can 
> block anything/anytime/anywhere. When that happens I can never 
> remember/find one fast enough to have the full devastating impact that 
> I seek....

The other day something quite funny happened to me. I was with my Laptop trying to find an open AP.
I found one, but couldn't browser the internet nor get my OpenVPN (against a USA-based server) up
and running. I started making some tests... and I finally tried sshing into one of my local (i.e in
argentina) servers.

It worked. So, they were filtering (or the internet link didn't have) international access. I
quickly set-up an openvpn server on the argentinian (i.e national) server, a 3proxy-proxy (fast
enough), and told firefox to use it (over the vpn). Quite funny :)

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* Re: [ot] Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 15:19         ` [ot] " Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
@ 2007-09-16 19:17           ` Hans-Werner Hilse
  2007-09-16 20:55             ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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From: Hans-Werner Hilse @ 2007-09-16 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hi,

On Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:19:06 -0300
"Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman" <buanzo@buanzo.com.ar> wrote:

> The other day something quite funny happened to me. I was with my Laptop trying to find an open AP.
> I found one, but couldn't browser the internet nor get my OpenVPN (against a USA-based server) up
> and running. I started making some tests... and I finally tried sshing into one of my local (i.e in
> argentina) servers.
> 
> It worked. So, they were filtering (or the internet link didn't have) international access. I
> quickly set-up an openvpn server on the argentinian (i.e national) server, a 3proxy-proxy (fast
> enough), and told firefox to use it (over the vpn). Quite funny :)

I just use ssh for this. Using the "-D" flag gives a SOCKS5 proxy,
listening locally, making/accepting connections on the ssh remote end.
You can use it directly in Firefox, no need for full-fledged VPN.
(and for that, there would be the new "-w" option -- when IP-via-TCP is
an option)

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* Re: [ot] Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
  2007-09-16 19:17           ` Hans-Werner Hilse
@ 2007-09-16 20:55             ` Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman @ 2007-09-16 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> I just use ssh for this. Using the "-D" flag gives a SOCKS5 proxy,
> listening locally, making/accepting connections on the ssh remote end.
> You can use it directly in Firefox, no need for full-fledged VPN.
> (and for that, there would be the new "-w" option -- when IP-via-TCP is
> an option)

Yes, ssh is usually my choice for one-time tunnels, but I took the opportunity to setup a
full-fledged VPN against this national server, just in case I needed anything else :)

In any case, (quote form man ssh here) "Since an SSH-based setup entails a fair amount of overhead,
it may be more suited to temporary setups, such as for wireless VPNs.  More permanent VPNs are
better provided by tools such as ipsecctl(8) and isakmpd(8).".

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