* [gentoo-user] Best virtual machine for my needs
@ 2007-07-27 20:25 Florian Philipp
2007-07-27 20:36 ` A. R.
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From: Florian Philipp @ 2007-07-27 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Hi!
I need a way to use Napster or iTunes on Linux. (I don't like DRM but it's not
my PC and not my decision)
I think my best bet would be a virtual machine with Windows 2000 (I can spare
the licence). The PC is an older AMD64 without AMD-V. Therefore I need
something that
a) is free or at least not expensive
b) works without AMD-V and Intel-V
c) works with Win2k
d) simulates a CD recorder for burning the music (or do you know a better way
to get rid of DRM again?)
I hope my English was good enough to explain myself and you can help me.
Thanks in advance!
Florian Philipp
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Best virtual machine for my needs
2007-07-27 20:25 [gentoo-user] Best virtual machine for my needs Florian Philipp
@ 2007-07-27 20:36 ` A. R.
2007-07-27 20:40 ` Joshua Doll
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From: A. R. @ 2007-07-27 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 7/27/07, Florian Philipp <f.philipp@addcom.de> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I need a way to use Napster or iTunes on Linux. (I don't like DRM but it's not
> my PC and not my decision)
>
> I think my best bet would be a virtual machine with Windows 2000 (I can spare
> the licence). The PC is an older AMD64 without AMD-V. Therefore I need
> something that
>
> a) is free or at least not expensive
> b) works without AMD-V and Intel-V
> c) works with Win2k
> d) simulates a CD recorder for burning the music (or do you know a better way
> to get rid of DRM again?)
>
> I hope my English was good enough to explain myself and you can help me.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Florian Philipp
>
>
The only thing I can think of is "wine" (an emulator), which is in the
portage tree:
emerge -va wine
After that, there is a very good site for using wine with several programs:
http://frankscorner.org/
I know nothing on how to avoid all that DRM fiasco.
HTH
- AR
--
One should die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Best virtual machine for my needs
2007-07-27 20:36 ` A. R.
@ 2007-07-27 20:40 ` Joshua Doll
2007-07-27 21:11 ` Florian Philipp
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From: Joshua Doll @ 2007-07-27 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
A. R. wrote:
> On 7/27/07, Florian Philipp <f.philipp@addcom.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I need a way to use Napster or iTunes on Linux. (I don't like DRM but it's not
>> my PC and not my decision)
>>
>> I think my best bet would be a virtual machine with Windows 2000 (I can spare
>> the licence). The PC is an older AMD64 without AMD-V. Therefore I need
>> something that
>>
>> a) is free or at least not expensive
>> b) works without AMD-V and Intel-V
>> c) works with Win2k
>> d) simulates a CD recorder for burning the music (or do you know a better way
>> to get rid of DRM again?)
>>
>> I hope my English was good enough to explain myself and you can help me.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Florian Philipp
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> The only thing I can think of is "wine" (an emulator), which is in the
> portage tree:
>
> emerge -va wine
>
> After that, there is a very good site for using wine with several programs:
> http://frankscorner.org/
>
> I know nothing on how to avoid all that DRM fiasco.
>
> HTH
>
> - AR
>
>
>
There's vmare, kvm, qemu?, and xen that I can think of right off the top
of my head. Wine might work but I wouldn't bet on it.
--Joshua Doll
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Best virtual machine for my needs
2007-07-27 20:40 ` Joshua Doll
@ 2007-07-27 21:11 ` Florian Philipp
2007-07-28 0:24 ` Tim Allingham
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From: Florian Philipp @ 2007-07-27 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Am Freitag 27 Juli 2007 22:40 schrieb Joshua Doll:
> A. R. wrote:
> > On 7/27/07, Florian Philipp <f.philipp@addcom.de> wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >>
> >> I need a way to use Napster or iTunes on Linux. (I don't like DRM but
> >> it's not my PC and not my decision)
> >>
> >> I think my best bet would be a virtual machine with Windows 2000 (I can
> >> spare the licence). The PC is an older AMD64 without AMD-V. Therefore I
> >> need something that
> >>
> >> a) is free or at least not expensive
> >> b) works without AMD-V and Intel-V
> >> c) works with Win2k
> >> d) simulates a CD recorder for burning the music (or do you know a
> >> better way to get rid of DRM again?)
> >>
> >> I hope my English was good enough to explain myself and you can help me.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
> >>
> >> Florian Philipp
> >
> > The only thing I can think of is "wine" (an emulator), which is in the
> > portage tree:
> >
> > emerge -va wine
> >
> > After that, there is a very good site for using wine with several
> > programs: http://frankscorner.org/
> >
> > I know nothing on how to avoid all that DRM fiasco.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > - AR
>
> There's vmare, kvm, qemu?, and xen that I can think of right off the top
> of my head. Wine might work but I wouldn't bet on it.
>
>
> --Joshua Doll
KVM needs Intel-V or AMD-V. Xen doesn't need it for Linux and BSD but needs it
for Windows.
Qemu and vmware might work but I just don't know if they can emulate a cd
recorder and that's what I need to know.
Wine does not work (iTunes doesn't start, Napster can't playback and is barely
tested, Windows Media Player is tricky at best - everything according to
appdb.winehq.org). Even if it would start, I don't think Wine supports the
DRM framework of Win.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Best virtual machine for my needs
2007-07-27 21:11 ` Florian Philipp
@ 2007-07-28 0:24 ` Tim Allingham
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From: Tim Allingham @ 2007-07-28 0:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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I run a few virtual machines using qemu, which can be run without
hardware virtualisation support. One of the things it will happily do is
mount a physical CD drive, so you may be able to burn the music off in
this manner (using the -cdrom switch with /dev/dvdrw gives me a DVD
burner through the windows interface though I haven't actually tried
burning anything yet).
On Fri, 2007-07-27 at 23:11 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am Freitag 27 Juli 2007 22:40 schrieb Joshua Doll:
> > A. R. wrote:
> > > On 7/27/07, Florian Philipp <f.philipp@addcom.de> wrote:
> > >> Hi!
> > >>
> > >> I need a way to use Napster or iTunes on Linux. (I don't like DRM but
> > >> it's not my PC and not my decision)
> > >>
> > >> I think my best bet would be a virtual machine with Windows 2000 (I can
> > >> spare the licence). The PC is an older AMD64 without AMD-V. Therefore I
> > >> need something that
> > >>
> > >> a) is free or at least not expensive
> > >> b) works without AMD-V and Intel-V
> > >> c) works with Win2k
> > >> d) simulates a CD recorder for burning the music (or do you know a
> > >> better way to get rid of DRM again?)
> > >>
> > >> I hope my English was good enough to explain myself and you can help me.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance!
> > >>
> > >> Florian Philipp
> > >
> > > The only thing I can think of is "wine" (an emulator), which is in the
> > > portage tree:
> > >
> > > emerge -va wine
> > >
> > > After that, there is a very good site for using wine with several
> > > programs: http://frankscorner.org/
> > >
> > > I know nothing on how to avoid all that DRM fiasco.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > - AR
> >
> > There's vmare, kvm, qemu?, and xen that I can think of right off the top
> > of my head. Wine might work but I wouldn't bet on it.
> >
> >
> > --Joshua Doll
>
> KVM needs Intel-V or AMD-V. Xen doesn't need it for Linux and BSD but needs it
> for Windows.
> Qemu and vmware might work but I just don't know if they can emulate a cd
> recorder and that's what I need to know.
>
> Wine does not work (iTunes doesn't start, Napster can't playback and is barely
> tested, Windows Media Player is tricky at best - everything according to
> appdb.winehq.org). Even if it would start, I don't think Wine supports the
> DRM framework of Win.
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