From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1IBcdx-0006yT-0O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:30:37 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with SMTP id l6JKSkXu009848; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:28:46 GMT Received: from out2.smtp.messagingengine.com (out2.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.26]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6JKNN2I002778 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:23:23 GMT Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.internal [10.202.2.41]) by out1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4EC09D19 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:23:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:23:22 -0400 X-Sasl-enc: IUiiLxMxiyELisFKwovkyVOkM9cJIonuYzNW6nLTDXFA 1184876601 Received: from [192.168.31.10] (cpe-76-185-203-114.tx.res.rr.com [76.185.203.114]) by www.fastmail.fm (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4E201EE1 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:23:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sony Viao Vista and Gentoo From: Albert Hopkins To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200707192129.15142.f.philipp@addcom.de> References: <1184871678.18550.73.camel@blackwidow.nbk> <200707192129.15142.f.philipp@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Gentoo Foundation Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:23:20 -0500 Message-Id: <1184876600.18550.94.camel@blackwidow.nbk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.10.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 4d4b0a93-7b2c-426b-868a-c23196ea1551 X-Archives-Hash: 21be62de363cbe137f38653bbd271b95 On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 21:29 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: > Well, actually we are using both (chainloading ntldr by grub) and if you are > changing the partition scheme, you might need to work with it. > Sorry I was confused. [...] > > Sorry when I said boot via liveCD I wasn't specifically referring to the > > Gentoo LiveCD, but "a"/"any" liveCD. The one I always use is RIPLinux. > > It's great for this kind of stuff.. but I actually use it on a USB stick > > as opposed to a physical CD. RIPLinux comes with all kinds of stuff: > > ntfs/lvm/raid tools, partimage, [g]parted, qemu, mt, mtools, network > > clients, cd/dvd recording software, ndiswrapper, alsa, boot-from-grub, > > X11, etc. etc). Fit's on a 128MB USB stick and loads right into RAM. > > It's awesome. You'll never look at another live cd for > > recovery/administration again. Don't tell anyone I said this, but it's > > also great for installing Gentoo ;-) > > Is it stable? I've tried the newest Knoppix which can copy itself into RAM, > too (although WAY slower because of its size the disk speed) and it always > crashed after some time although there was enough space left and the RAM is > known good. I've been using RIPLinux for 3 years and haven't had any issues with it. I would not compare it to Knoppix though as they have different goals. Knoppix is more "pack as much Linux on a cd as possible" whereas RIPLinux is made specifically for recovery and administration. The software list is kept down to the essentials. The non-X version is only about 32MB, but it contains a host of stuff that administrators need... probably stuff that you won't find on Knoppix. For example the last time I used Knoppix, and it has been a while, it didn't recognize LVM volumes. But RIPLinux is not the type of live cd you'd want to boot and use as a "daily" linux. It's a tractor not sedan lol. Because of it's size it loads pretty quickly. The documentation states "You'll need at least 128MB of RAM and a 486DX CPU". Though it will run on old hardware it comes with the latest software... even will mount my ext4dev drive. The X11 version will on-the-fly download the latest Firefox snapshot from mozilla.org and load/run it from RAM if u tell it to. It comes with Qemu for testing images. It can even boot itself into qemu. Great utility. I can't stop talking about it LOL. The only thing I wish it had that's missing are Amanda client and OpenVPN, but those are not major items. -- Albert W. Hopkins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list