[gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus

[gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus

[Iain Buchanan]

Hi all,

recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC
"HD" HD video camera.   (The first "HD" is for high def!).

Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the
annoying thing is the video files are named in hex:
MOV001
MOV002
MOV003
...
MOV009
MOV00A
MOV00B
...
MOV00F
MOV010

 and so on.  But when nautilus displays the files, it decides to do it
"cleverly", and sorts all the 001 to 009, 010 to 019, etc. files _after_
all the 00A to 00F, 01A to 01F files, so I end up with this:

MOV00A
MOV00B
...
MOV00F
MOV01A
...
MOV001
MOV002
MOV003
...
MOV009
MOV010
MOV011
...

which is in completely the wrong order, so trying to categorise / edit
the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of
place they get!  `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I
expect and puts it in the right order.

so in short, is there any way around this?  Can I tell nautilus to stop
being "clever"?  I had a look in the options, but I can't find it.
(There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that
will fix everything ;)

TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus

[Mark Knecht]

On 4/25/07, Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC
> "HD" HD video camera.   (The first "HD" is for high def!).
>
> Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the
> annoying thing is the video files are named in hex:
<SNIP>
>
> which is in completely the wrong order, so trying to categorise / edit
> the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of
> place they get!  `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I
> expect and puts it in the right order.
>
> so in short, is there any way around this?  Can I tell nautilus to stop
> being "clever"?  I had a look in the options, but I can't find it.
> (There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that
> will fix everything ;)
>
> TIA,
> --
> Iain Buchanan <iaindb at netspace dot net dot au>

Assuming the files are time stamped then sort by date & time instead of by name?

HTH,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus

[Iain Buchanan]

On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 04:41 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> On 4/25/07, Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC
> > "HD" HD video camera.   (The first "HD" is for high def!).
> >
> > Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the
> > annoying thing is the video files are named in hex:
> <SNIP>
> >
> > which is in completely the wrong order, so trying to categorise / edit
> > the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of
> > place they get!  `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I
> > expect and puts it in the right order.
> >
> > so in short, is there any way around this?  Can I tell nautilus to stop
> > being "clever"?  I had a look in the options, but I can't find it.
> > (There's always `emerge -C gnome; emerge kde` but I don't know if that
> > will fix everything ;)

> Assuming the files are time stamped then sort by date & time instead of by name?

Good idea, but they get timestamped to the local time when they get
copied to my PC.  I could copy them with -a (?) but that doesn't help
the ones I have already...

thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] file sorting in nautilus

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Thursday 26 April 2007 01:15:17 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> recently I borrowed (and will probably soon buy a related model) a JVC
> "HD" HD video camera.   (The first "HD" is for high def!).
>
> Anyway, the great feature is it records on a 40Gb hard disk, but the
> annoying thing is the video files are named in hex:
> MOV001
> MOV002
> MOV003
> ...
> MOV009
> MOV00A
> MOV00B
> ...
> MOV00F
> MOV010
>
>  and so on.  But when nautilus displays the files, it decides to do it
> "cleverly", and sorts all the 001 to 009, 010 to 019, etc. files _after_
> all the 00A to 00F, 01A to 01F files, which is in completely the wrong
> order, so trying to categorise / edit 
> the files becomes a pain, as the more files I have, the further out of
> place they get!  `ls` doesn't sort it like nautilus - it does what I
> expect and puts it in the right order.

Adjust your LC_ALL, LC_COLLATE, and/or LANG environment variables.  (At least, 
Nautilus /should/ respect those.)  You might have to do something like:
LC_ALL="POSIX" nautilus
from a xterm-like application.  You can use
env | grep ^L
from a new xterm-like seesion to see what nautilus "sees" by default.

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[gentoo-user] Re: file sorting in nautilus

[Alexander Skwar]

Iain Buchanan <iaindb@netspace.net.au> wrote:

> so in short, is there any way around this?  Can I tell nautilus to stop
> being "clever"? 

I reported this as a bug to the Gnome folks. See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435505

Alexander Skwar

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