[gentoo-user] Gentoo as NAS

[gentoo-user] Gentoo as NAS

[Raphael MD]

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Hello everyone,

I'm thinking about using Gentoo as a NAS serve. I know there are some NAS
distributions like FreeNAS that are claimed to be rock solid, but FreeNAS
support for GPU and other things sounds poor to me.

Said that, what could be the effort to turn my Gentoo in a NAS service,
setting up SAMBA, Plex, quotas and ZFS?

Anyone has already tried it?

Thanks!

M.S. Raphael Mejias Dias
Nuclear Engineer | Reactors

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as NAS

[Michael Jones]

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I do this with btrfs instead of zfs.

Its no more complicated than any other service configuration.

Gentoo doesn't make this harder or easier than any other distribution.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 12:04 Raphael MD <raphaxx@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I'm thinking about using Gentoo as a NAS serve. I know there are some NAS
> distributions like FreeNAS that are claimed to be rock solid, but FreeNAS
> support for GPU and other things sounds poor to me.
>
> Said that, what could be the effort to turn my Gentoo in a NAS service,
> setting up SAMBA, Plex, quotas and ZFS?
>
> Anyone has already tried it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> M.S. Raphael Mejias Dias
> Nuclear Engineer | Reactors
>
> Secure e-mail: raphael.mejias.dias@protonmail.com
> PGP Key for raphaxx@gmail.com:
> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x87BC5A746072F951
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as NAS

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:04:14 -0300, Raphael MD wrote:

> Said that, what could be the effort to turn my Gentoo in a NAS service,
> setting up SAMBA, Plex, quotas and ZFS?

I see Plex as the main problem, as it is no longer in portage.
One way round that would be to run it under Docker.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Grant Edwards]

On 2021-02-04, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:04:14 -0300, Raphael MD wrote:
>
>> Said that, what could be the effort to turn my Gentoo in a NAS service,
>> setting up SAMBA, Plex, quotas and ZFS?
>
> I see Plex as the main problem, as it is no longer in portage.
> One way round that would be to run it under Docker.

The whole Plex thing is something I need to figure out. I suppose it's
either give up on it completely or Docker. Complaints in the Plex
forums about it using an obsolte version of Python are pretty much met
with a response of "shut up and go away".  :/

--
Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Michael Jones]

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Use the plex overlay.

It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:56 PM Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2021-02-04, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 15:04:14 -0300, Raphael MD wrote:
> >
> >> Said that, what could be the effort to turn my Gentoo in a NAS service,
> >> setting up SAMBA, Plex, quotas and ZFS?
> >
> > I see Plex as the main problem, as it is no longer in portage.
> > One way round that would be to run it under Docker.
>
> The whole Plex thing is something I need to figure out. I suppose it's
> either give up on it completely or Docker. Complaints in the Plex
> forums about it using an obsolte version of Python are pretty much met
> with a response of "shut up and go away".  :/
>
> --
> Grant
>
>
>
>

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Grant Edwards]

On 2021-02-05, Michael Jones <gentoo@jonesmz.com> wrote:

> Use the plex overlay.
>
> It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was.

This one?

https://github.com/comio/plex-overlay/

The plex-server ebuild appears to require systemd, but it isn't listed
as a dependency. Am I missing something?

--
Grant

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Grant Edwards]

On 2021-02-05, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2021-02-05, Michael Jones <gentoo@jonesmz.com> wrote:
>
>> Use the plex overlay.
>>
>> It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was.
>
> This one?
>
> https://github.com/comio/plex-overlay/
>
> The plex-server ebuild appears to require systemd, but it isn't listed
> as a dependency. Am I missing something?

Apparently so. The presence of the command systemd_newunit in the .ebuild
doesn't mean that systemd is required.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Scott Ellis]

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I use Plex via Docker and it works great.  Super simple to setup a
docker-compose file to bring it up (or even a simple script to 'docker
run...').  Data stored on a zpool made up of a pair of 3-drive vdevs.  More
complex than random FreeNAS/Unraid/Whatever setup, but if you're
comfortable enough to use Gentoo, I don't think figuring out ZFS and Docker
is much of a stretch.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 5:07 PM Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2021-02-05, Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 2021-02-05, Michael Jones <gentoo@jonesmz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Use the plex overlay.
> >>
> >> It's updated regularly. Faster than the official gentoo repo was.
> >
> > This one?
> >
> > https://github.com/comio/plex-overlay/
> >
> > The plex-server ebuild appears to require systemd, but it isn't listed
> > as a dependency. Am I missing something?
>
> Apparently so. The presence of the command systemd_newunit in the .ebuild
> doesn't mean that systemd is required.
>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Matt Connell (Gmail)]

On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 01:06 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > The plex-server ebuild appears to require systemd, but it isn't listed
> > as a dependency. Am I missing something?
> 
> 
> Apparently so. The presence of the command systemd_newunit in the .ebuild
> 
> doesn't mean that systemd is required.

I am using plex-media-server from this overlay without systemd.  It is
not required.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Michael]

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On Friday, 5 February 2021 03:34:12 GMT Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote:
> On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 01:06 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
> > > The plex-server ebuild appears to require systemd, but it isn't listed
> > > as a dependency. Am I missing something?
> > 
> > Apparently so. The presence of the command systemd_newunit in the .ebuild
> > 
> > doesn't mean that systemd is required.
> 
> I am using plex-media-server from this overlay without systemd.  It is
> not required.

Wouldn't a binary distro, potentially purpose built as a NAS and/or HTPC 
offering, make more sense?  I don't see what advantage the maintenance burden 
of a Gentoo system has to offer in this use case, other than repurposing with 
little effort an existing Gentoo installation.  :-/

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Grant Edwards]

On 2021-02-05, Michael <confabulate@kintzios.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 5 February 2021 03:34:12 GMT Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote:
>
>> I am using plex-media-server from this overlay without systemd.  It is
>> not required.

Indeed it's not. I added the overlay with 'eselect reository', did a
sync+upate, and it installed and worked with zero fuss.

> Wouldn't a binary distro, potentially purpose built as a NAS and/or HTPC 
> offering, make more sense?  I don't see what advantage the maintenance burden 
> of a Gentoo system has to offer in this use case, other than repurposing with 
> little effort an existing Gentoo installation.  :-/

Perhaps, but my plex-meida-server isn't running on an HTPC. It runs on
my normal desktop machine with which I do software development and
other day-to-day stuff.

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Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Matt Connell (Gmail)]

On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 09:36 +0000, Michael wrote:
> Wouldn't a binary distro, potentially purpose built as a NAS and/or HTPC 
> offering, make more sense?  I don't see what advantage the maintenance burden 
> of a Gentoo system has to offer in this use case, other than repurposing with 
> little effort an existing Gentoo installation.  :-/

Running Gentoo on my home server makes the maintenance burden *lower*
for me because I can use all the same tools I'm used to.  Besides,
portage is the pinnacle of package managers IMHO.  Using a GNU+Linux
system without USE flags and such feels like I'm stuck in a hallway,
with someone else's idea of how software should be configured and
deployed.

tl;dr I like Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo as NAS

[Frank Steinmetzger]

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Am Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 10:43:39AM -0600 schrieb Matt Connell (Gmail):

> On Fri, 2021-02-05 at 09:36 +0000, Michael wrote:
> > Wouldn't a binary distro, potentially purpose built as a NAS and/or HTPC 
> > offering, make more sense?  I don't see what advantage the maintenance burden 
> > of a Gentoo system has to offer in this use case, other than repurposing with 
> > little effort an existing Gentoo installation.  :-/
> 
> Running Gentoo on my home server makes the maintenance burden *lower*
> for me because I can use all the same tools I'm used to.  Besides,
> portage is the pinnacle of package managers IMHO.  Using a GNU+Linux
> system without USE flags and such feels like I'm stuck in a hallway,
> with someone else's idea of how software should be configured and
> deployed.

Coincidentally, my NAS is the only Gentoo system left in my menagerie. The
install base is much smaller than on a desktop, which keeps the package
graph to a manageable size (and with, it portage churning time). Every few
months I fire it up to store new movies or grab old ones to watch, and I do
a system update at the same time. That way I won’t lose all of my Gentoo-foo
over time.

I built it in a small cube-format server case and a server-grade mITX board,
and maxed it out with four drives, 6 TB each, plus a small system SSD. They
are used in a raid Z2 data pool, on top of LUKS-encrypted block devices.
This is out of pure paranoia in case I need to send a drive in for warranty.
Currently, I don’t use the system for anything else but media library. For
24/7 services I have a raspi. The power bill just isn’t worth it.

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