[gentoo-user] [OT] printing protocols

[gentoo-user] [OT] printing protocols

[Iain Buchanan]

Hi all,

another OT post, but then this list is getting pretty good with that
sort of thing!

I'm playing around with a new printer at work (Xerox Document Center
C360).  It's a bit of a monster, but it does have some good features.

Anyway, I'm wondering what protocol I should use to talk to it? I did a
port scan and found these ports open:

  80 http
 111 sunrpc
 139 netbios-ssn
 515 printer
 631 ipp
1025 ?
1605 ?

I've so far tried printing via a samba share on our server, which seems
to work; and direct using ipp, which worked.

My question is really what's the difference?  Are some features
supported better on some protocols? Are some faster / less resource
intensive?

I'm using cups and gimp-print to get the driver for it.

I'd appreciate any info. Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] printing protocols

[Iain Buchanan]

On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 10:38 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> 
> My question is really what's the difference?  Are some features
> supported better on some protocols? Are some faster / less resource
> intensive?

One disadvantage: acrobat reader doesn't show the printer in it's print
dialog when using ipp...
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] printing protocols

[Alan McKinnon]

On Tuesday 14 November 2006 05:42, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 10:38 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > My question is really what's the difference?  Are some features
> > supported better on some protocols? Are some faster / less resource
> > intensive?
>
> One disadvantage: acrobat reader doesn't show the printer in it's
> print dialog when using ipp...

All the more reason to migrate towards kpdf/evince/gpdf/epdf which all 
do in fact pick up the cups printers available.

If you don't need the drm features of acrobat, there's no compelling 
reason to use it

alan
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] printing protocols

[James]

Iain Buchanan <iaindb <at> netspace.net.au> writes:

> I'm playing around with a new printer at work (Xerox Document Center
> C360).  It's a bit of a monster, but it does have some good features.
> Anyway, I'm wondering what protocol I should use to talk to it? I did a
> port scan and found these ports open:
>   80 http
>  111 sunrpc
>  139 netbios-ssn
>  515 printer
>  631 ipp
> 1025 ?
> 1605 ?


Hello Iain,
ipp (631) gets my vote. You can use cups with ipp and here's some docs, 
should you not be successful via the cups gui interfaces
[1,2]

Here's a simple example I use to get printing up on new systems:
(/etc/cups/printers.conf)

<DefaultPrinter LaserJet>
Info LaserJet
DeviceURI socket://192.168.2.3
State Idle
Accepting Yes
JobSheets none none
QuotaPeriod 0
PageLimit 0
KLimit 0
</Printer>

The gui in cups then picks up the config and you can
use the gui to manage the printer hereafter. The gui
via cups is not fully robust, in my experience. YMMV.

More elaborate configs are often warranted. This simple config
gets the ethernet on a HP laserjet working, very quickly. 
After it initially prints, I usually comb the net for 
support of the advanced features you want/need.

> I've so far tried printing via a samba share on our server, which seems
> to work; and direct using ipp, which worked.

> My question is really what's the difference?  Are some features
> supported better on some protocols? Are some faster / less resource
> intensive?

Dunno if anyone has benchmarked these choices....

> I'm using cups and gimp-print to get the driver for it.
> I'd appreciate any info. Thanks!

Here are a few more resources to ponder:


[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml#cups
[2] http://localhost:631/sam.html
[3] http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kdeprint/cups-ipp-support.html
[4] http://linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi
[5] http://www.owlfish.com/thoughts/winipp-cups-2003-07-20.html
[6] http://www.cups.org/windows/


hth,

James




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] printing protocols

[Iain Buchanan]

Thanks for the replies.  it appears the reason acroread didn't see the
ipp printer is because... *ahem* ... I had deleted it :)

Now that it's back again, acroread can see it fine.

Thanks for the links James - it looks like IPP is the way to go.

Alan - I usually use evince, but I have been having some printing issues
with it lately, as well as performance issues (it crashes a lot!) But I
think I've solved those now, so I'll go back to it an emerge -C
acroread!

thanks!
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