[gentoo-user] Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[gentoo-user] Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[sdoma]

Hi,

I tried to update my world after gentoo saying me that there is a new
portage available on a x86 based system (need to install ~x86 libaio for
Oracle).

emerge -u says, that pam-login is blocked (blocked by shadow)...
I ``emerge -C shadow'' ...... and emerge tells me, that pam-login is
blocked  by shadow.
I unmerge pam-login, and emerge tells me, that openal is blocked by
amother package ... ``emerge --pretend openal'' doesn't show any
blockers. BTW, I will NOT uninstall openal.

What's going on?

Frank



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Re: [gentoo-user] Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[sdoma]

Solved,

seems there is a replacement for openal, or the package has a new
name, ... or ...

BTW, as I said, I run a stable version (x86 without the '~') and I'm
updating 87 (!!!) packages after a month or so. Is this normal? In this
case I'll return to ~x86.

Regards
Frank


On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 08:33 +0200, sdoma wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to update my world after gentoo saying me that there is a new
> portage available on a x86 based system (need to install ~x86 libaio for
> Oracle).
> 
> emerge -u says, that pam-login is blocked (blocked by shadow)...
> I ``emerge -C shadow'' ...... and emerge tells me, that pam-login is
> blocked  by shadow.
> I unmerge pam-login, and emerge tells me, that openal is blocked by
> amother package ... ``emerge --pretend openal'' doesn't show any
> blockers. BTW, I will NOT uninstall openal.
> 
> What's going on?
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[Remy Blank]

sdoma wrote:
> emerge -u says, that pam-login is blocked (blocked by shadow)...
> I ``emerge -C shadow'' ...... and emerge tells me, that pam-login is
> blocked  by shadow.
> I unmerge pam-login, and emerge tells me, that openal is blocked by
> amother package ... ``emerge --pretend openal'' doesn't show any
> blockers. BTW, I will NOT uninstall openal.
> 
> What's going on?

You only had to unmerge pam-login and update shadow. The functionality
of pam-login is now provided by shadow, so that the former is no longer
needed.

Hint: Don't logout between the unmerge and the update, or you'll be
locked out.

Hint 2: This question has been asked (and answered) several times on
this mailing list and in the forums. Please search the archives before
posting.

-- Remy


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Re: [gentoo-user] Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[Greg Bur]

On 9/23/06, sdoma <sdoma@karneval.cz> wrote:
> Solved,
>
> seems there is a replacement for openal, or the package has a new
> name, ... or ...
>
> BTW, as I said, I run a stable version (x86 without the '~') and I'm
> updating 87 (!!!) packages after a month or so. Is this normal? In this
> case I'll return to ~x86.
>

If you're moving from ~x86 to x86 chances are portage is downgrading
several packages.  Once you have completed the migration to x86 you
should only have a handful of updates a week at most.
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[sdoma]

Hmmm,
I've installed x86 based from scratch a month ago ....

On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 05:47 -0400, Greg Bur wrote:
> On 9/23/06, sdoma <sdoma@karneval.cz> wrote:
> > Solved,
> >
> > seems there is a replacement for openal, or the package has a new
> > name, ... or ...
> >
> > BTW, as I said, I run a stable version (x86 without the '~') and I'm
> > updating 87 (!!!) packages after a month or so. Is this normal? In this
> > case I'll return to ~x86.
> >
> 
> If you're moving from ~x86 to x86 chances are portage is downgrading
> several packages.  Once you have completed the migration to x86 you
> should only have a handful of updates a week at most.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[sdoma]

Thanks for the hint. I've unmerged shadow AND pam just now.

emerge failed on glibc, saying the new version is nplt-only (I don't get
the picture here ... I use nplt on my system). Well restarting emerge
(no resume, just a new emerge -u world, which says it will rebuild 48
further packages) continues. Let's see if (and whwere) it fails and if
everything is working afterwards.

So I'll remerge shadow after this if all goes well.

Frank


On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 09:24 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
> sdoma wrote:
> > emerge -u says, that pam-login is blocked (blocked by shadow)...
> > I ``emerge -C shadow'' ...... and emerge tells me, that pam-login is
> > blocked  by shadow.
> > I unmerge pam-login, and emerge tells me, that openal is blocked by
> > amother package ... ``emerge --pretend openal'' doesn't show any
> > blockers. BTW, I will NOT uninstall openal.
> > 
> > What's going on?
> 
> You only had to unmerge pam-login and update shadow. The functionality
> of pam-login is now provided by shadow, so that the former is no longer
> needed.
> 
> Hint: Don't logout between the unmerge and the update, or you'll be
> locked out.
> 
> Hint 2: This question has been asked (and answered) several times on
> this mailing list and in the forums. Please search the archives before
> posting.
> 
> -- Remy
> 
> 
> Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response.
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[sdoma]

Uff,

... all went well :oD

I've re-emerged shadow, logged out and logged in and even rebooted the
system and (otherwise I wouldn't be able to send this post) all is
living again.

Thank you guys for the hints and for this system (:oD)

Frank

PS: Just a minor issue: Is there a way to use "normal" SysV booting on
Gentoo? What I mean is the booting style with the [0-9][0-9]something
in /etc/[init.d/]rc[0-9] what usuelly are links to /etc/init.d instead
of this simpleinit (?) style booting?
Xcuse me, I'm mostly working on AIX, HP-UX, Solaris, Dynix and Tru64, so
the Gentoo boot style is an annoying one for me. .. I'm not saying that
it is a bad one with this stating ;o)
I started on Linux with Slackware. They use BSD style booting. THERE it
was easy to replace this. How on Gentoo?


On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 12:45 +0200, sdoma wrote:
> Thanks for the hint. I've unmerged shadow AND pam just now.
> 
> emerge failed on glibc, saying the new version is nplt-only (I don't get
> the picture here ... I use nplt on my system). Well restarting emerge
> (no resume, just a new emerge -u world, which says it will rebuild 48
> further packages) continues. Let's see if (and whwere) it fails and if
> everything is working afterwards.
> 
> So I'll remerge shadow after this if all goes well.
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2006-09-23 at 09:24 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
> > sdoma wrote:
> > > emerge -u says, that pam-login is blocked (blocked by shadow)...
> > > I ``emerge -C shadow'' ...... and emerge tells me, that pam-login is
> > > blocked  by shadow.
> > > I unmerge pam-login, and emerge tells me, that openal is blocked by
> > > amother package ... ``emerge --pretend openal'' doesn't show any
> > > blockers. BTW, I will NOT uninstall openal.
> > > 
> > > What's going on?
> > 
> > You only had to unmerge pam-login and update shadow. The functionality
> > of pam-login is now provided by shadow, so that the former is no longer
> > needed.
> > 
> > Hint: Don't logout between the unmerge and the update, or you'll be
> > locked out.
> > 
> > Hint 2: This question has been asked (and answered) several times on
> > this mailing list and in the forums. Please search the archives before
> > posting.
> > 
> > -- Remy
> > 
> > 
> > Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response.
> > 
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Wow, this is what I call stable! ;-)

[Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman]

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sdoma wrote:
> I started on Linux with Slackware. They use BSD style booting. THERE it
> was easy to replace this. How on Gentoo?

Well, sysvinit IS installed on gentoo by default. and if you check the "runlevel" command, you'll
see where you are standing.... /etc/inittab is the same.... check it out, there is the difference ;)

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