[gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Michael Sullivan]

I'm really confused.  Last night when I did emerge -pvuD world, emerge
said that mozilla was blocking seamonkey.  I unmerged mozilla and ran
emerge -pvuD again to make sure that everything was okay.  It said that
mozilla was still blocking seamonkey, but I checked and mozilla wasn't
even merged:

camille ~ # emerge -pvuD world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[blocks B     ] www-client/mozilla (is blocking
www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2)
[ebuild     UD] media-libs/libpng-1.2.8-r1 [1.2.12] USE="doc" 0 kB
[ebuild     U ] dev-util/intltool-0.35.0 [0.34.2] 126 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-apps/xdriinfo-1.0.1  USE="debug" 79 kB
[ebuild  N    ] www-client/mozilla-1.7.13  USE="crypt debug gnome ipv6
java ssl truetype -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
-moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 30,381 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.14.2 [2.14.0-r1] USE="debug
ipv6 mad ogg vorbis" 2,856 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-apps/busybox-1.1.3 [1.1.0] USE="debug -floppyboot
-make-symlinks -netboot -savedconfig -static" 1,402 kB
[ebuild  N    ] www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome ipv6
java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail
-moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB
[ebuild     U ] gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug -firefox"
796 kB
[ebuild     U ] www-client/epiphany-1.8.4.1-r1 [1.8.4.1] USE="debug doc
python -dbus -firefox" 3,281 kB

Total size of downloads: 74,087 kB
camille ~ # emerge -C mozilla

--- Couldn't find 'mozilla' to unmerge.

>>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge.

What do I do about this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Alan McKinnon]

On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 08:51 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> I'm really confused.  Last night when I did emerge -pvuD world, emerge
> said that mozilla was blocking seamonkey.  I unmerged mozilla and ran
> emerge -pvuD again to make sure that everything was okay.  It said
> that
> mozilla was still blocking seamonkey, but I checked and mozilla wasn't
> even merged: 

Looks like some other package wants to install mozilla as a dependency
but can't as sea-monkey is blocking it.

'equery depends mozilla' ought to help - look for things you have
installed then decide if you can live without them or not. Or, you may
simply have a mozilla USE flag set

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Friedrich Göpel]

On 7/3/06, Alan McKinnon <alan@linuxholdings.co.za> wrote:
> 'equery depends mozilla' ought to help - look for things you have
> installed then decide if you can live without them or not. Or, you may
> simply have a mozilla USE flag set

Hi,
equery doesn't always work, as you think it would. (ie. shows nothing)
emerge -uDtpv world should show you though what's trying to pull in mozilla.

Cheers,

Friedrich Göpel

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Michael Sullivan]

On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 15:26 +0100, Friedrich Göpel wrote:
> On 7/3/06, Alan McKinnon <alan@linuxholdings.co.za> wrote:
> > 'equery depends mozilla' ought to help - look for things you have
> > installed then decide if you can live without them or not. Or, you may
> > simply have a mozilla USE flag set
> 
> Hi,
> equery doesn't always work, as you think it would. (ie. shows nothing)
> emerge -uDtpv world should show you though what's trying to pull in mozilla.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Friedrich Göpel

I did "equery belongs mozilla" and unmerged everything it listed.  Then
I put "-mozilla" in my USE list in /etc/make.conf.  I then did an
"emerge uDtpv world".  Here's the output:

camille ~ # emerge -uDtpv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:

Calculating world dependencies... done!
[blocks B     ] www-client/mozilla (is blocking
www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2)
[nomerge      ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre8  USE="3dfx 3dnow 3dnowext X
aac aalib alsa arts bidi bl cdparanoia cpudetection debug dga directfb
doc dts dv dvb dvd dvdread encode esd fbcon ggi gif gtk i8x0 ipv6 jack
joystick jpeg libcaca lirc live lzo mad matrox mmx mmxext nas opengl oss
png real rtc samba sdl sse sse2 svga tga theora truetype unicode v4l
v4l2 vorbis win32codecs xanim xinerama xmms xv xvid xvmc -bindist
-custom-cflags -livecd -musepack -nvidia -openal -speex -x264"
[ebuild  N    ]  media-video/realplayer-10.0.7  USE="nsplugin" 6,494 kB
[nomerge      ] gnome-base/gnome-2.12.3  USE="cdr dvdr hal
-accessibility"
[ebuild  N    ]  www-client/epiphany-1.8.4.1-r1  USE="debug doc python
-dbus -firefox" 3,281 kB
[ebuild     U ]  gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug
-firefox" 796 kB
[ebuild  N    ]   www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome
ipv6 java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
-moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB
[nomerge      ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1  USE="debug"
[nomerge      ]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8
[nomerge      ]         dev-dotnet/gecko-sharp-0.6
[ebuild  N    ]          www-client/mozilla-1.7.13  USE="crypt debug
gnome ipv6 java ssl truetype -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop
-moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama
-xprint" 30,381 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-misc/ca-certificates-20050804  91 kB
[nomerge      ] perl-core/Test-Harness-2.56  USE="-minimal"
[nomerge      ]    dev-libs/openssl-0.9.7j  USE="zlib -bindist -emacs
-test"
[nomerge      ]     dev-lang/perl-5.8.8-r2  USE="berkdb debug doc gdbm
ithreads -build -perlsuid"
[nomerge      ]      sys-devel/libperl-5.8.8-r1  USE="berkdb debug gdbm
-ithreads"
[nomerge      ]       sys-libs/db-4.2.52_p2-r1  USE="doc java tcltk
-bootstrap -nocxx"
[ebuild  N    ]        dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03  USE="X alsa
browserplugin doc nsplugin -mozilla" 33,570 kB
[nomerge      ] net-fs/samba-3.0.22  USE="cups doc examples libclamav
mysql pam python readline syslog xml -acl -async -automount -kerberos
-ldap -ldapsam -oav -postgres -quotas -swat -winbind"
[nomerge      ]  app-admin/syslog-ng-1.6.9  USE="tcpd -hardened -static"
[nomerge      ]   dev-libs/libol-0.3.17
[nomerge      ]            net-print/cups-1.1.23-r7  USE="nls pam samba
slp ssl -gnutls"
[ebuild     UD]             media-libs/libpng-1.2.8-r1 [1.2.12]
USE="doc" 0 kB
[nomerge      ] dev-perl/DBD-mysql-2.9007  USE="-minimal"
[nomerge      ]  dev-perl/DBI-1.50  USE="-minimal"
[nomerge      ]   dev-perl/PlRPC-0.2018  USE="-minimal"
[nomerge      ]    dev-perl/Net-Daemon-0.38  USE="-minimal"
[ebuild  N    ]        dev-java/blackdown-jre-1.4.2.03
USE="browserplugin nsplugin -mozilla" 13,224 kB

Total size of downloads: 123,001 kB

The only mozilla in there I see is the one it wants to merge...


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Friedrich Göpel]

On 7/3/06, Michael Sullivan <michael@espersunited.com> wrote:
> camille ~ # emerge -uDtpv world
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating world dependencies... done!
> [blocks B     ] www-client/mozilla (is blocking
> www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2)
> [nomerge      ] media-video/mplayer-1.0_pre8  USE="3dfx 3dnow 3dnowext X
> aac aalib alsa arts bidi bl cdparanoia cpudetection debug dga directfb
> doc dts dv dvb dvd dvdread encode esd fbcon ggi gif gtk i8x0 ipv6 jack
> joystick jpeg libcaca lirc live lzo mad matrox mmx mmxext nas opengl oss
> png real rtc samba sdl sse sse2 svga tga theora truetype unicode v4l
> v4l2 vorbis win32codecs xanim xinerama xmms xv xvid xvmc -bindist
> -custom-cflags -livecd -musepack -nvidia -openal -speex -x264"
> [ebuild  N    ]  media-video/realplayer-10.0.7  USE="nsplugin" 6,494 kB
> [nomerge      ] gnome-base/gnome-2.12.3  USE="cdr dvdr hal
> -accessibility"
> [ebuild  N    ]  www-client/epiphany-1.8.4.1-r1  USE="debug doc python
> -dbus -firefox" 3,281 kB
> [ebuild     U ]  gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug
> -firefox" 796 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]   www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome
> ipv6 java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
> -moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB
> [nomerge      ] x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme-2.12.1  USE="debug"
> [nomerge      ]  x11-themes/hicolor-icon-theme-0.8

Here, this is trying to pull in mozilla:
> [nomerge      ]         dev-dotnet/gecko-sharp-0.6
> [ebuild  N    ]          www-client/mozilla-1.7.13  USE="crypt debug
> gnome ipv6 java ssl truetype -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop
> -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama
> -xprint" 30,381 kB

Might be other things as well, rinse and repeat.

Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Friedrich Göpel

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Alexander Skwar]

Friedrich Göpel schrieb:

> Here, this is trying to pull in mozilla:
>> [nomerge      ]         dev-dotnet/gecko-sharp-0.6
>> [ebuild  N    ]          www-client/mozilla-1.7.13  USE="crypt debug
>> gnome ipv6 java ssl truetype -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop
>> -moznocompose -moznoirc -moznomail -moznoxft -mozsvg -postgres -xinerama
>> -xprint" 30,381 kB

If I remember the discussion in the appropriate bug correctly,
there isn't any fix. gecko-sharp depends on mozilla. Period.
Even though it's not required, you're forced to install mozilla,
even if you normally use firefox and have gecko-sdk installed.
Even then you're forced to install mozilla.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Bruno Lustosa]

> [ebuild     U ]  gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug
> -firefox" 796 kB
> [ebuild  N    ]   www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome
> ipv6 java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
> -moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB

I got through it this morning.
Some packages have a new "firefox" use flag, and when it isn't set (it
wasn't here), the ebuild tries to merge seamonkey, which in turn
blocks mozilla.
In your case, it's the yelp that is causing this. If you enable the
firefox use flag, it will try to compile against firefox instead of
trying seamonkey.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Michael Sullivan]

On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 13:56 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote:
> > [ebuild     U ]  gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug
> > -firefox" 796 kB
> > [ebuild  N    ]   www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome
> > ipv6 java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
> > -moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB
> 
> I got through it this morning.
> Some packages have a new "firefox" use flag, and when it isn't set (it
> wasn't here), the ebuild tries to merge seamonkey, which in turn
> blocks mozilla.
> In your case, it's the yelp that is causing this. If you enable the
> firefox use flag, it will try to compile against firefox instead of
> trying seamonkey.
> 
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> ZCE - Zend Certified Engineer - PHP!
> http://www.lustosa.net/

I don't want firefox though.  I want mozilla, and if mozilla is now
called seamonkey, I want seamonkey.  If I turn on the firefox use flag,
won't it try to emerge firefox and block seamonkey?  And if seamonkey is
the new mozilla, why does mozilla block it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey [SOLVED (I think)]

[Michael Sullivan]

On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 13:56 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote:
> > [ebuild     U ]  gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug
> > -firefox" 796 kB
> > [ebuild  N    ]   www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome
> > ipv6 java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
> > -moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB
> 
> I got through it this morning.
> Some packages have a new "firefox" use flag, and when it isn't set (it
> wasn't here), the ebuild tries to merge seamonkey, which in turn
> blocks mozilla.
> In your case, it's the yelp that is causing this. If you enable the
> firefox use flag, it will try to compile against firefox instead of
> trying seamonkey.
> 
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> ZCE - Zend Certified Engineer - PHP!
> http://www.lustosa.net/

Nevermind.  I stopped trying to emerge -uD world and just said "emerge
-av yelp" (after I unmerged it in my exasperation) and now seamonkey and
yelp are installing.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Alexander Skwar]

Michael Sullivan schrieb:
> On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 13:56 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote:
>> > [ebuild     U ]  gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug
>> > -firefox" 796 kB
>> > [ebuild  N    ]   www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome
>> > ipv6 java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
>> > -moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB
>> 
>> I got through it this morning.
>> Some packages have a new "firefox" use flag, and when it isn't set (it
>> wasn't here), the ebuild tries to merge seamonkey, which in turn
>> blocks mozilla.
>> In your case, it's the yelp that is causing this. If you enable the
>> firefox use flag, it will try to compile against firefox instead of
>> trying seamonkey.

> I don't want firefox though.  I want mozilla, and if mozilla is now
> called seamonkey, I want seamonkey.

Mozilla isn't called SeaMonkey now. SeaMonkey and Mozilla Suite
are seperate projects, with Mozilla Suite being rather dead now.

>  If I turn on the firefox use flag,
> won't it try to emerge firefox

Yes.

> and block seamonkey?

No.

>  And if seamonkey is
> the new mozilla, why does mozilla block it?

Firefox is the new Mozilla. SeaMonkey is a fork. Anyway - if
I understood the bug correctly, SeaMonkey (or Firefox) won't
be sufficient for gecko-sharp. gecko-sdk will suffice, eventually.

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Dale]

Michael Sullivan wrote:
>
> I don't want firefox though.  I want mozilla, and if mozilla is now
> called seamonkey, I want seamonkey.  If I turn on the firefox use flag,
> won't it try to emerge firefox and block seamonkey?  And if seamonkey is
> the new mozilla, why does mozilla block it?
>
>   

Maybe this will help.  I went through this the other day.  In
package.keywords:

> www-client/seamonkey ~x86

In package.unmask:


> <=www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2

Maybe something is different between us but that worked for me about a
week ago.  I don't think it is keyworded or masked anymore but just in case.

Oh, I did still have mozilla in my USE line.  I just removed it but it
was there and it still worked.  I also still have mozilla-launcher
installed and Seamonkey will not start without it.  Go figure.

Hope that helps.

Dale
:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - mozilla and seamonkey

[Rumen Yotov]

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Michael Sullivan wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-07-03 at 13:56 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote:
>>> [ebuild     U ]  gnome-extra/yelp-2.12.2-r1 [2.12.2] USE="debug
>>> -firefox" 796 kB
>>> [ebuild  N    ]   www-client/seamonkey-1.0.2  USE="crypt debug gnome
>>> ipv6 java -ldap -mozcalendar -mozdevelop -moznocompose -moznoirc
>>> -moznomail -moznoroaming -postgres -xinerama -xprint" 35,162 kB
>> I got through it this morning.
>> Some packages have a new "firefox" use flag, and when it isn't set (it
>> wasn't here), the ebuild tries to merge seamonkey, which in turn
>> blocks mozilla.
>> In your case, it's the yelp that is causing this. If you enable the
>> firefox use flag, it will try to compile against firefox instead of
>> trying seamonkey.
>>
>> -- 
>> Bruno Lustosa <bruno@lustosa.net>
>> ZCE - Zend Certified Engineer - PHP!
>> http://www.lustosa.net/
> 
> I don't want firefox though.  I want mozilla, and if mozilla is now
> called seamonkey, I want seamonkey.  If I turn on the firefox use flag,
> won't it try to emerge firefox and block seamonkey?  And if seamonkey is
> the new mozilla, why does mozilla block it?
> 
Hi,
If you want seamonkey in mozilla's place 'virtually install' mozilla.
#echo "www-client/mozilla-1.7.13" >> /etc/portage/profile/package.provided
This will make portage believe that mozilla is really installed.
But watch out for changes in "gecko-sharp" whatever wants to fetch
mozilla. Now 'yelp' will *use* seamonkey.
HTH.Rumen

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