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From: Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Portage is proposing an ncurses update and I don't understand what it means
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On Friday 04 September 2015 01:01:34 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 04/09/2015 00:05, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> >>>>>>> I think it is an Einstein quote
> > 
> > [..]
> > 
> >>>>>> And Feynmann said something
> > 
> > [..]
> > 
> >>>> I don't think they're misnamed, the problem is in our heads.
> > 
> > [..]
> > 
> > tl;dr
> > 
> > I don't care.
> > I want to be a gentoo-USER (see name of ml).
> > 
> > Don't get me wrong, I like fuzzing around with details etc (and most
> > people subscribed here know that from various threads I triggered ...).
> > 
> > But don't you agree that it *should* be possible to simply pull upgrades
> > from the distro of choice without solving "problems in my head" ?
> > 
> > IMO it's the definition of maintainers to keep that level of complexity
> > away from the plain users. Especially for users of the stable "branch"
> > (the OP of this thread wrote "stable" = amd64 machine).
> > 
> > I admit: maybe I miss some point here because I didn't read the whole
> > thread.
> > 
> > IMO "stable" should result in a (mostly ...) carefree and maintained
> > experience for the user.
> 
> Sure. That's a valid POV.
> 
> Gentoo config should be declarative, not imperative. You should tell it
> *what* you want, not *how* to do it. Packages and SLOTs are
> user-visible, they define what you want. Sub-slots, although I think I
> understand them, are a poorly though out implementation as they expose
> part of the how to the user. Worse, they sometimes make the user decide.
> 
> And the name is confusing, it's all indicative of the concept not being
> thought all the way through.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has trouble with the ways other 
people use English.  :)

-- 
Rgds
Peter