[gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Timothy A. Holmes]

Hi Folks:

I am looking for some linux software to allow me to record our church
services in digital format.  I have a gentoo box set up and properly
working using audacity, however, a key feature that I need for our setup
has been withdrawn from audacity, and it has made it become unsuitable
for our needs.  (I need to be able to drop some form of mark (track mark
/ label / whatever) on the moving waveform during recording.  The new
version 1.2.1 of audacity has made this EXTREMLY hard to do (it used to
be a key shortcut))

If anyone has any suggestions I would be most interested.

TIM


Timothy A. Holmes
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Mark Knecht]

Take a look at Ardour. It's a much more accomplished program than
Audacity, although considerably more difficult to use when you get
into it's advanced features. It's moderately stable and one of the
best Linux audio program out there.

Ardour supports a marker list althogh I'm not sure about dropping them
in while recording.

Ardour is in portage. Ardour2, currently in its second alpha test
release, is available from the Ardour.org website.

Good luck,
Mark

On 3/20/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
> Hi Folks:
>
> I am looking for some linux software to allow me to record our church
> services in digital format.  I have a gentoo box set up and properly
> working using audacity, however, a key feature that I need for our setup
> has been withdrawn from audacity, and it has made it become unsuitable
> for our needs.  (I need to be able to drop some form of mark (track mark
> / label / whatever) on the moving waveform during recording.  The new
> version 1.2.1 of audacity has made this EXTREMLY hard to do (it used to
> be a key shortcut))
>
> If anyone has any suggestions I would be most interested.
>
> TIM
>
>
> Timothy A. Holmes
> IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
>
> Medina Christian Academy
> A Higher Standard...
>
> Jeremiah 33:3
> Jeremiah 29:11
> Esther 4:14
>
>
>
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RE: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Timothy A. Holmes]

Mark:

I have ardour installed on the box, unfortunately, JACK is currently
being a jerk and giving me fits.  I tried to install the GUI
configurator for JACK, and after 4 hours of emerging the QTlibs, the
compile failed, so Im kinda banging my head on the wall right now.

TIM


Timothy A. Holmes
IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
 
Medina Christian Academy
A Higher Standard...
 
Jeremiah 33:3
Jeremiah 29:11
Esther 4:14

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:30 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording
> 
> Take a look at Ardour. It's a much more accomplished program than
> Audacity, although considerably more difficult to use when you get
> into it's advanced features. It's moderately stable and one of the
> best Linux audio program out there.
> 
> Ardour supports a marker list althogh I'm not sure about dropping them
> in while recording.
> 
> Ardour is in portage. Ardour2, currently in its second alpha test
> release, is available from the Ardour.org website.
> 
> Good luck,
> Mark
> 
> On 3/20/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
> > Hi Folks:
> >
> > I am looking for some linux software to allow me to record our
church
> > services in digital format.  I have a gentoo box set up and properly
> > working using audacity, however, a key feature that I need for our
setup
> > has been withdrawn from audacity, and it has made it become
unsuitable
> > for our needs.  (I need to be able to drop some form of mark (track
mark
> > / label / whatever) on the moving waveform during recording.  The
new
> > version 1.2.1 of audacity has made this EXTREMLY hard to do (it used
to
> > be a key shortcut))
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions I would be most interested.
> >
> > TIM
> >
> >
> > Timothy A. Holmes
> > IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
> >
> > Medina Christian Academy
> > A Higher Standard...
> >
> > Jeremiah 33:3
> > Jeremiah 29:11
> > Esther 4:14
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[JimD]

Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
> Hi Folks:
> 
> I am looking for some linux software to allow me to record our church
> services in digital format.  I have a gentoo box set up and properly
> working using audacity, however, a key feature that I need for our setup
> has been withdrawn from audacity, and it has made it become unsuitable
> for our needs.  (I need to be able to drop some form of mark (track mark
> / label / whatever) on the moving waveform during recording.  The new
> version 1.2.1 of audacity has made this EXTREMLY hard to do (it used to
> be a key shortcut))
> 
> If anyone has any suggestions I would be most interested.
> 
> TIM


Do you need the ability to just have separate files?  When I recorded 
the worship/sermon for my church I would plug in an old Archos MP3 
player/recorder to the mixer.  The Archos had the ability to record to 
MP3 and it let me just push the pause button during recording and a new 
MP3 file start.

If the previous version of Audacity worked for you, is there any reason 
why you just don't keep using that version?

Jim

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Martins Steinbergs]

On Monday 20 March 2006 17:37, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
> Mark:
>
> I have ardour installed on the box, unfortunately, JACK is currently
> being a jerk and giving me fits.  I tried to install the GUI
> configurator for JACK, and after 4 hours of emerging the QTlibs, the
> compile failed, so Im kinda banging my head on the wall right now.
>
> TIM
>
>
> Timothy A. Holmes
> IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
>
> Medina Christian Academy
> A Higher Standard...
>
> Jeremiah 33:3
> Jeremiah 29:11
> Esther 4:14
>

maybe cues in rezound will do what you want. allows insertion while recording 
and after you can move them around for a better fit. 

*  media-sound/rezound
      Latest version available: 0.12.2_beta
      Latest version installed: 0.12.2_beta
      Size of files: 1,689 kB
      Homepage:      http://rezound.sourceforge.net
      Description:   Sound editor and recorder
      License:       GPL-2
 
martins

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RE: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Timothy A. Holmes]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: JimD [mailto:Jim@keeliegirl.dyndns.org]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 11:50 AM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording
> 
> Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
> > Hi Folks:
> >
> > I am looking for some linux software to allow me to record our
church
> > services in digital format.  I have a gentoo box set up and properly
> > working using audacity, however, a key feature that I need for our
setup
> > has been withdrawn from audacity, and it has made it become
unsuitable
> > for our needs.  (I need to be able to drop some form of mark (track
mark
> > / label / whatever) on the moving waveform during recording.  The
new
> > version 1.2.1 of audacity has made this EXTREMLY hard to do (it used
to
> > be a key shortcut))
> >
> > If anyone has any suggestions I would be most interested.
> >
> > TIM
> 
> 
> Do you need the ability to just have separate files?  When I recorded
> the worship/sermon for my church I would plug in an old Archos MP3
> player/recorder to the mixer.  The Archos had the ability to record to
> MP3 and it let me just push the pause button during recording and a
new
> MP3 file start.
> 
> If the previous version of Audacity worked for you, is there any
reason
> why you just don't keep using that version?
> 
> Jim
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[Timothy A. Holmes] 

Jim:

We are recording digitally for burning to CD for distribution,
unfortunately, we don't have the mp3 recorder etc.  As far as the old
version of audacity --- it was the windows version, and we had
significant stability problems with it

TIM



Timothy A. Holmes
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Medina Christian Academy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Michael Crute]

On 3/20/06, JimD <Jim@keeliegirl.dyndns.org> wrote:
> Do you need the ability to just have separate files?  When I recorded
> the worship/sermon for my church I would plug in an old Archos MP3
> player/recorder to the mixer.  The Archos had the ability to record to
> MP3 and it let me just push the pause button during recording and a new
> MP3 file start.
>
> If the previous version of Audacity worked for you, is there any reason
> why you just don't keep using that version?
>

MP3 isn't really suitable for this type of recording anyhow. If you
are making CDs you want to capture as WAV.

-Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[JimD]

Michael Crute wrote:
> 
> MP3 isn't really suitable for this type of recording anyhow. If you
> are making CDs you want to capture as WAV.

MP3 has been working great for us for more than 2 years.  No one has 
noticed any quality loss when going from 192kbps MP3 to CD.  Also having 
the sermon/worship in MP3 allows for streaming from a web site.

Jim


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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Christoph Eckert]

> I have ardour installed on the box, unfortunately, JACK is currently
> being a jerk and giving me fits.  I tried to install the GUI
> configurator for JACK, and after 4 hours of emerging the QTlibs, the
> compile failed, so Im kinda banging my head on the wall right now.

as soon the wall is down :) , it's most probably worth a new try.

I guess you tried to install qjackctl. It's a cool frontend to jack, but 
if you don't need to connect various audio applications and devices 
maybe you'll be glad with running jackd on the command line.

The 'only' thing you need to do is configuring jackd to fit your setup; 
see the web and the linux audio user list for help.

If you need to do multitrack recording and/or low latencies, jackd and 
ardour surely is worth a try.


Best regards


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[Timothy A. Holmes]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:ce@christeck.de]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:08 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording
> 
> 
> > I have ardour installed on the box, unfortunately, JACK is currently
> > being a jerk and giving me fits.  I tried to install the GUI
> > configurator for JACK, and after 4 hours of emerging the QTlibs, the
> > compile failed, so Im kinda banging my head on the wall right now.
> 
> as soon the wall is down :) , it's most probably worth a new try.
> 
> I guess you tried to install qjackctl. It's a cool frontend to jack, but
> if you don't need to connect various audio applications and devices
> maybe you'll be glad with running jackd on the command line.
> 
> The 'only' thing you need to do is configuring jackd to fit your setup;
> see the web and the linux audio user list for help.
> 
> If you need to do multitrack recording and/or low latencies, jackd and
> ardour surely is worth a try.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
> ce
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Hi Christoph - yes, that was the gui I was working on.  

Jack wont start for some reason from the CLI (I don't know why)

Here is a transcript of the session attempt to start jackd

audacity ~ # jackd -dalsa
jackd 0.99.0
Copyright 2001-2003 Paul Davis and others.
jackd comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details

JACK compiled with System V SHM support
loading driver ..
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
Couldn't open hw:0 for 32bit samples trying 24bit instead
Couldn't open hw:0 for 24bit samples trying 16bit instead
ALSA: cannot set number of periods to 2 for capture
ALSA: cannot configure capture channel
cannot load driver module alsa
audacity ~ #



I really don't know what the problem is, as ALSA works fine, its in use with audacity.

Any pointers you can provide would be great,

Sadly, it turns out that ardour does not have the one specific functionality that I needed, but it may be useful anyway, and I would like to play with it.

TIM



Timothy A. Holmes
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Medina Christian Academy
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[Timothy A. Holmes]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christoph Eckert [mailto:ce@christeck.de]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 1:08 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording
> 
> 
> > I have ardour installed on the box, unfortunately, JACK is currently
> > being a jerk and giving me fits.  I tried to install the GUI
> > configurator for JACK, and after 4 hours of emerging the QTlibs, the
> > compile failed, so Im kinda banging my head on the wall right now.
> 
> as soon the wall is down :) , it's most probably worth a new try.
> 
> I guess you tried to install qjackctl. It's a cool frontend to jack, but
> if you don't need to connect various audio applications and devices
> maybe you'll be glad with running jackd on the command line.
> 
> The 'only' thing you need to do is configuring jackd to fit your setup;
> see the web and the linux audio user list for help.
> 
> If you need to do multitrack recording and/or low latencies, jackd and
> ardour surely is worth a try.
> 
> 
> Best regards
> 
> 
> ce
> 
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[Timothy A. Holmes] 

Christoph -- one further question if I may, the only linux audio list that I know of http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php

Returns as a dead link and the linuxdj.com website is non functional

If this has moved someplace else, I would be very interested, as it seems like a great idea, if I can get it working.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Michael Crute]

On 3/20/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
> Sadly, it turns out that ardour does not have the one specific functionality that I
> needed, but it may be useful anyway, and I would like to play with it.

Tim... I'm not sure that you really need the track mark feature for
what you are doing. The process we are using right now is that we just
try to get a good clean 2 track mix on the computer (we have HD24s
recording all inputs raw for mixdown later) and then sort things out
later on. If your recording setup is half as hectic as ours you will
be lucky if you remember to start the computer recording, let along
get track marks placed at the right time. Just a thought.

-Mike

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[Timothy A. Holmes]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Crute [mailto:mcrute@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 2:59 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording
> 
> On 3/20/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
> > Sadly, it turns out that ardour does not have the one specific
> functionality that I
> > needed, but it may be useful anyway, and I would like to play with
it.
> 
> Tim... I'm not sure that you really need the track mark feature for
> what you are doing. The process we are using right now is that we just
> try to get a good clean 2 track mix on the computer (we have HD24s
> recording all inputs raw for mixdown later) and then sort things out
> later on. If your recording setup is half as hectic as ours you will
> be lucky if you remember to start the computer recording, let along
> get track marks placed at the right time. Just a thought.
> 
> -Mike
> 
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[Timothy A. Holmes] 
Hi Mike:

I have a dedicated crew of 2 doing a separate mix down from state inputs
on a separate mixer so it works quite nicely for them to go ahead and
drop the markers.

There are times when people are missing that we will start it and let it
run

TIM


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[Christoph Eckert]

> http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php

huh, I will ask on the list what's going on here. I'll let you know any 
result via PM.


Best regards


ce

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[Christoph Eckert]

[qjackctl]

> Hi Christoph - yes, that was the gui I was working on.  

nice app for controlling jackd (start, stop, audio connections).

> Jack wont start for some reason from the CLI (I don't know why)
>
> Here is a transcript of the session attempt to start jackd
>
> audacity ~ # jackd -dalsa

I use an external USB breakout box and qjackctl shows the following 
line:

/usr/local/bin//jackd -R -P83 -p64 -dalsa -dhw:2 -r48000 -p256 -n3

As you can see, it's a bit more than yours :)

> JACK compiled with System V SHM support

You should have mounted shm via /etc/fstab to get lower latencies. Mine 
reads as the following:

none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0

[...]

> Couldn't open hw:0 for 32bit samples trying 24bit instead
> Couldn't open hw:0 for 24bit samples trying 16bit instead
> ALSA: cannot set number of periods to 2 for capture
> ALSA: cannot configure capture channel
> cannot load driver module alsa
> audacity ~ #
>
>
>
> I really don't know what the problem is, as ALSA works fine,
> its in use with audacity.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As long as your sound device is blocked by another app, you will not 
succeed with any other app. Stop all apps. including soundservers like 
artsd, esound, gstreamer and the like.

> Sadly, it turns out that ardour does not have the one specific
> functionality that I needed, but it may be useful anyway, and I would
> like to play with it.

Ardour is a great example for the power of OSS vs. commercial 
applications. It's not only comparable but equal to apps like Ableton.


Best regards


ce


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[Christoph Eckert]

> http://www.linuxdj.com/audio/lad/subscribelau.php

the domain is being ported to another server; seems to be a long lasting 
transition :) .

Meanwhile, use
http://music.columbia.edu/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-user
for subscription.


Best regards


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Karl Hakimian]

On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 12:43:37PM -0500, JimD wrote:
> MP3 has been working great for us for more than 2 years.  No one has 
> noticed any quality loss when going from 192kbps MP3 to CD.  Also having 
> the sermon/worship in MP3 allows for streaming from a web site.

We have been using broadcast2000 (unfortunately now removed from
portage) and recording in wav format. If we miss the markers during the
record, we go back and put them in later. I have a perl script that I
wrote to extract the marker info and burn the cd with appropriate tracks
using cdrdao. We later crunch into mp3 for the website.

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[Mark Knecht]

Tim,
   I see you've gotten other responses which is great. My input would
be that we should try to get jack going on your system whether you end
up using it or not. I hope you do as it's the only way I know of to
record audio and be assured you got every sample.

   Can you post back what versions you are trying to build?

lightning ~ # emerge -pv jack-audio-connection-kit qjackctl

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.100.7  +alsa
(-altivec) -caps (-coreaudio) -debug -doc +jack-tmpfs (-mmx) -oss
-portaudio +sndfile (-sse) 0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/qjackctl-0.2.17  0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

   Also, post back the results of these two commands.

emerge info
eix -I qt

Cheers,
Mark

On 3/20/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
> Mark:
>
> I have ardour installed on the box, unfortunately, JACK is currently
> being a jerk and giving me fits.  I tried to install the GUI
> configurator for JACK, and after 4 hours of emerging the QTlibs, the
> compile failed, so Im kinda banging my head on the wall right now.
>
> TIM
>
>
> Timothy A. Holmes
> IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
>
> Medina Christian Academy
> A Higher Standard...
>
> Jeremiah 33:3
> Jeremiah 29:11
> Esther 4:14
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 10:30 AM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording
> >
> > Take a look at Ardour. It's a much more accomplished program than
> > Audacity, although considerably more difficult to use when you get
> > into it's advanced features. It's moderately stable and one of the
> > best Linux audio program out there.
> >
> > Ardour supports a marker list althogh I'm not sure about dropping them
> > in while recording.
> >
> > Ardour is in portage. Ardour2, currently in its second alpha test
> > release, is available from the Ardour.org website.
> >
> > Good luck,
> > Mark
> >
> > On 3/20/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
> > > Hi Folks:
> > >
> > > I am looking for some linux software to allow me to record our
> church
> > > services in digital format.  I have a gentoo box set up and properly
> > > working using audacity, however, a key feature that I need for our
> setup
> > > has been withdrawn from audacity, and it has made it become
> unsuitable
> > > for our needs.  (I need to be able to drop some form of mark (track
> mark
> > > / label / whatever) on the moving waveform during recording.  The
> new
> > > version 1.2.1 of audacity has made this EXTREMLY hard to do (it used
> to
> > > be a key shortcut))
> > >
> > > If anyone has any suggestions I would be most interested.
> > >
> > > TIM
> > >
> > >
> > > Timothy A. Holmes
> > > IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
> > >
> > > Medina Christian Academy
> > > A Higher Standard...
> > >
> > > Jeremiah 33:3
> > > Jeremiah 29:11
> > > Esther 4:14
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[Timothy A. Holmes]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Knecht [mailto:markknecht@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2006 5:10 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording
> 
> Tim,
>    I see you've gotten other responses which is great. My input would
> be that we should try to get jack going on your system whether you end
> up using it or not. I hope you do as it's the only way I know of to
> record audio and be assured you got every sample.
> 
>    Can you post back what versions you are trying to build?
> 
> lightning ~ # emerge -pv jack-audio-connection-kit qjackctl
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.100.7  +alsa
> (-altivec) -caps (-coreaudio) -debug -doc +jack-tmpfs (-mmx) -oss
> -portaudio +sndfile (-sse) 0 kB
> [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/qjackctl-0.2.17  0 kB
> 
> Total size of downloads: 0 kB
> lightning ~ #
> 
>    Also, post back the results of these two commands.
> 
> emerge info
> eix -I qt
> 
> Cheers,
> Mark
> 
 [Timothy A. Holmes] 

Mark -- per your previous  here is the info you asked for

I am interested to know why it needs cups


audacity ~ # emerge -pv jack-audio-connection-kit qjackctl

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0-r1  +alsa
(-altivec) -caps -debug -doc -jack-tmpfs +oss -portaudio 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11  3,664 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/ghostscript-esp-7.07.1-r8  +X -cjk +cups -emacs
+gtk 5,276 kB
[ebuild     U ] sys-devel/automake-1.9.6-r1 [1.9.5] 747 kB
[ebuild  N    ] app-text/poppler-0.5.0-r5  -cairo +jpeg 913 kB
[ebuild  N    ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r7  -gnutls -nls +pam -samba -slp
+ssl 8,501 kB
[ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8  +cups -debug -doc -examples
-firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -odbc +opengl
-postgres -sqlite -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild  N    ] media-sound/qjackctl-0.2.17  239 kB

Total size of downloads: 19,343 kB


audacity ~ # emerge info
Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.5-20050130,
glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1, 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686 Pentium III (Katmai)
Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13
dev-lang/python:     2.3.5-r2
sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.11
sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.5
sys-devel/binutils:  2.15.92.0.2-r10
sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.18-r1
virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config
/usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://mirror.iawnet.sandia.gov/pub/gentoo/
ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/
ftp://gentoo.mirrored.ca/"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="x86 X alsa apm arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 crypt
cups dri eds emboss encode expat fam foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif glut
gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jack jpeg lcms libg++ libwww mad mikmod mng
motif mp3 mpeg ncurses ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl png
python qt quicktime readline sdl speex spell ssl tcpd tiff truetype
truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev vorbis xml2 xmms xv zlib userland_GNU
kernel_linux elibc_glibc"
Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS,
PORTDIR_OVERLAY

audacity ~ # eix -I qt
-bash: eix: command not found
audacity ~ #



Timothy A. Holmes
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Christoph Eckert]

> I am interested to know why it needs cups

I once had a smiliar problem. One day later I did sync and the prob was 
gone (thanks to all Gentoo bug hunters and fixers BTW).


Best regards


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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Iain Buchanan]

On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 10:17 -0500, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:
> Hi Folks:
> 
> I am looking for some linux software to allow me to record our church
> services in digital format.

the entire service, or just the "sermon" (/ speaker / whatever)?

We decided to use a hardware based CD recorder (with digital and
analog).  I can't remember the name, but its one of the best investments
we've ever made (for the audio side of things that is :)

We don't record music through it, mainly because there's no demand for
it, and we only have 2 channels going to the recorder.  After a recent
upgrade of mics, leads, EQ, etc, I am more than happy with the
professional quality of the device.  It can easily make new tracks on
your button press, or on silence detection.  Also, you don't have the
problem of software updates, disk crashes, etc.

The drawback is that you do have a CD created for each service, but you
can use CDRW's, and then rip them to a PC if you want.

Just another option to think of.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Iain Buchanan]

On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 18:21 -0500, Timothy A. Holmes wrote:

> Mark -- per your previous  here is the info you asked for
> 
> I am interested to know why it needs cups

cups can be used by qt.  If you don't want it just for qt, put this line
in /etc/portage/package.use:
x11-libs/qt -cups
or if you don't want it at all, put -cups in /etc/make.conf

then try the emerge line again

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using Gentoo for Sound Recording

[Mark Knecht]

On 3/20/06, Timothy A. Holmes <tholmes@mcaschool.net> wrote:
>
> Mark -- per your previous  here is the info you asked for
>
> I am interested to know why it needs cups

By 'it' you seem to mean qt? PResumably because the standard USE flags
for your profile have it defined. Here's what I'm getting when I
emerge qt:

lightning ~ # emerge -pv qt

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8  +cups -debug -doc -examples
(-firebird) +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl
-postgres -sqlite -xinerama 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

You can adjust your usage to be the same as mine by modifying
/etc/portage/package.use to get the same flags if you want. That
should build. (I hope!)


>
>
> audacity ~ # emerge -pv jack-audio-connection-kit qjackctl
>
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.99.0-r1  +alsa
> (-altivec) -caps -debug -doc -jack-tmpfs +oss -portaudio 0 kB

OK, so at this point I'd recommend changing your jack flags to be like mine:

lightning ~ # emerge -pv jack-audio-connection-kit

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/jack-audio-connection-kit-0.100.7  +alsa
(-altivec) -caps (-coreaudio) -debug -doc +jack-tmpfs (-mmx) -oss
-portaudio +sndfile (-sse) 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

You definately want the jack-tmpfs one turned on. Whether you really
want the oss flag I'm not sure. I don't know what that does unless it
builds some JAc-oss client.


> [ebuild  N    ] media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11  3,664 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] app-text/ghostscript-esp-7.07.1-r8  +X -cjk +cups -emacs
> +gtk 5,276 kB
> [ebuild     U ] sys-devel/automake-1.9.6-r1 [1.9.5] 747 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] app-text/poppler-0.5.0-r5  -cairo +jpeg 913 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] net-print/cups-1.1.23-r7  -gnutls -nls +pam -samba -slp
> +ssl 8,501 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8  +cups -debug -doc -examples
> -firebird +gif -immqt -immqt-bc -ipv6 -mysql -nas -odbc +opengl
> -postgres -sqlite -xinerama 0 kB
> [ebuild  N    ] media-sound/qjackctl-0.2.17  239 kB

In your case you may well not want cups. Modify
/etc/portage/package.use like this:

x11-libs/qt -cups

Here's my usage:

lightning ~ # emerge -pv qt

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8  +cups -debug -doc -examples
(-firebird) +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 +mysql -nas -odbc +opengl
-postgres -sqlite -xinerama 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB
lightning ~ #

Note that since this is a multipurpose machine I need cups support for
other things. If yours is only for recording then you probably do not.
This will likely reduce the amount of stuff you need to build  by
quite a lot.

Hope this helps,
Mark


>
> Total size of downloads: 19,343 kB
>
>
> audacity ~ # emerge info
> Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/x86/2005.1, gcc-3.3.5-20050130,
> glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r1, 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686)
> =================================================================
> System uname: 2.6.14-gentoo-r2 i686 Pentium III (Katmai)
> Gentoo Base System version 1.6.13
> dev-lang/python:     2.3.5-r2
> sys-apps/sandbox:    1.2.11
> sys-devel/autoconf:  2.13, 2.59-r6
> sys-devel/automake:  1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.5
> sys-devel/binutils:  2.15.92.0.2-r10
> sys-devel/libtool:   1.5.18-r1
> virtual/os-headers:  2.6.11-r2
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
> AUTOCLEAN="yes"
> CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
> CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config
> /usr/lib/X11/xkb /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
> CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
> CXXFLAGS="-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
> DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
> FEATURES="autoconfig distlocks sandbox sfperms strict"
> GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://mirror.iawnet.sandia.gov/pub/gentoo/
> ftp://gentoo.chem.wisc.edu/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/
> ftp://gentoo.mirrored.ca/"
> MAKEOPTS="-j2"
> PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
> PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
> PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
> SYNC="rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
> USE="x86 X alsa apm arts audiofile avi berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 crypt
> cups dri eds emboss encode expat fam foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif glut
> gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 imlib jack jpeg lcms libg++ libwww mad mikmod mng
> motif mp3 mpeg ncurses ogg oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl png
> python qt quicktime readline sdl speex spell ssl tcpd tiff truetype
> truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev vorbis xml2 xmms xv zlib userland_GNU
> kernel_linux elibc_glibc"
> Unset:  ASFLAGS, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS,
> PORTDIR_OVERLAY
>
> audacity ~ # eix -I qt
> -bash: eix: command not found
> audacity ~ #
>
>
>
> Timothy A. Holmes
> IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher
>
> Medina Christian Academy
> A Higher Standard...
>
> Jeremiah 33:3
> Jeremiah 29:11
> Esther 4:14
>
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