From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973E313881C for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 93AC8E0891; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gw2.antarean.org (gw2.antarean.org [141.105.125.208]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD7AE0888 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23239121F00 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:50:35 +0000 () X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at antarean.org Received: from gw2.antarean.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (gw2.antarean.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tvVOR1aXSOpv for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:50:31 +0000 (%Z) Received: from data.antarean.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gw2.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22AB121726 for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 13:50:30 +0000 () Received: from andromeda.localnet (unknown [10.20.13.200]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8766B4C for ; Thu, 24 Sep 2015 15:49:17 +0200 (CEST) From: "J. Roeleveld" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] installing Gentoo as a xen guest Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 15:50:30 +0200 Message-ID: <11365357.NG11K6Gkr5@andromeda> User-Agent: KMail/4.14.8 (Linux/4.0.5-gentoo; KDE/4.14.8; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <5603CAEB.2050709@gc-24.de> <9C8B1369-35D6-4491-8C44-7FE00B796FE0@antarean.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Archives-Salt: cd6c40c3-e90f-4ee5-949b-ba043d4915a3 X-Archives-Hash: bc33e2cc7f594ff96ea46c60ca0566f1 On Thursday, September 24, 2015 09:45:09 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:22 AM, J. Roeleveld wr= ote: > > For PV, grub is actually more work to get working. There is a confi= g > > option for the commandline. I will send one of mine later today. Please see email from H=E5kon Alstadheim for the example. > I can believe that. My only experience is with Amazon, which doesn't= > give you any control over the host xen. It just runs grub with a > grub.cfg you provide if you want to run your own kernel (unless that > has changed). Sounds like pvgrub. I never looked into setting that up, afaiui, it mou= nts the=20 guest filesystem, grabs the grub.cfg, grabs the kernel listed there, um= ounts,=20 then boots the guest. > > Does EC2 actually provide PV guests? > > With PV, the guest knows it's a guest and communicates with Xen. No= n-PV > > has an emulation layer (qemu) running on the host that hides the > > virtualisation from the guest. Special drivers on the guest can hel= p with > > performance, but isn't necessary to get it to work. > I believe that EC2 ONLY provides PV guests. I don't believe it will > do full virtualization for linux guests. They do provide windows > guests, and I'm not sure of the details of how that is done. If you > want to run a linux guest you either use one of their kernels, or you= > can run your own as long as it supports Xen PV. Windows guests will run in PVH mode as I doubt Microsoft has a PV-enabl= ed=20 kernel available for Amazon :) -- Joost