Re: [gentoo-user] How do I use 2.6.14 and remove udev and go back to devfs

["W.Kenworthy" <billk@iinet.net.au>]

(I think, without checking) devfs has been removed from 2.6.14 and
everything is supposed to be udev from now on.

A suggestion made out of frustration with 2.6.14 - use 2.6.13-r3 first.
Some kernel versions have had glitches with udev, and I know -r2 and -r3
are working for me on the i82k.

The reason is that 2.6.14 has made some rather large leaps that created
problems for me (so far all 3 machines, inc. desktops Ive tried have
headaches!)

First udev, install udev according to the gentoo guide and that should
work fine.  Check the udev USE flag so and "emerge world --newuse" if
neccessary.  Strongly reccomended: use the tarball method, not pure
udev!  you have enough problems without trying to sort that out.

Once its working and reliable, make the step to 2.6.14-r2
Traps for 2.6.14 are:
dont select both the log and ulog targets together in the netfilter
modules or you wont have any logging (changes mean only a single target
can be selected at a time - of course in true unix fashion they dont
tell you that, or prevent you from doing it:(

Only wpa_supplicant version 0.4.5 seems to work

pcmcia stuff seems to have changed somewhat, and I changed to
pcmciautils which was probably not necessary looking back, but it works
nicely and pcmcia-cs is on the way out.

wireless (madwifi) is now working fine (still got to check no encryption
which I have not been able to get to work under 2.6.13) - I turned all
kernel wireless stuff off and use wpa_supplicant and madwifi

softwaresuspend2 rc9 works with 2.6.14 - r10 and r11 have bugs, the
earlier ones dont apply cleanly.

The cisco-vpnclient wont compile against 2.6.14 until you delete some
lines out of one of the files: there's patches/instructions on the
forums.  Also, with the latest security bug in one of the protocols it
uses, an update will be along soon I'd say.

Ive had no problems with the 6629 series nvidia drivers, manually
patched for suspend2, but this was on a desktop (gforce4) as the i82k
uses a radeon card.

Had to use the ~x86 x11-drm to compile the radeon drm driver against
2.6.14

2.6.14 is looking like a major pita so far.  I have another machine to
do tonight, but hopefully there wont be any new dramas.

BillK



On Tue, 2005-11-15 at 23:56 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> I've been running 2.6.10 for some time. Then I started reading some stuff
> that I should update my Dell Inspiron 8200 notebook to UDEV. So I followed
> the gentoo wiki page and used kernel 2.6.13. This caused (known) issues with
> my nvidia driver and I couldn't get the USB mouse to work (yet the alps pad
> AND track point both worked fine). I didn't know what else was going to not
> work, so I said the hell with this as I'd already wasted enough time and
> went back to my old kernel image (until the udev people get their shit
> together and this is more stable).
> 
> I unmerged 'udev'
> 
> I re-emerged devfsd
> 
> Things were generally working fine (with 2.6.10)
> 
> Tonight I tried to make a new 2.6.14 kernel (using make oldconfig) and when
> it booted, there was some message that I don't have DEVFS or UDEV installed
> and so many things didn't work including sound, nvidia, wireless, etc.
> 
> I re-read the udev wiki page and tried to find the 'make menuconfig' options
> they suggest and can't find them. I also grepped my .config for both "UDEV"
> and "DEVFS" and found nothing. WTF!
> 
> How do I use the good old devfs with the 2.6.14+ kernels?! Where are the
> freakin' settings? What do I need to change/fix to get it to work again.
> UGH!
> 
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