From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6C51381F3 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7B741E05C1; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 254D2E0534 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:09:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hq4so1243946wib.10 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:09:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=+mEJxtlMXTXD/qQnvPoq+LK85AYqO7oyy4DDSsK5lUY=; b=0tK4+EtlHB4mJvF+L9xqoKh181ILQkinz3qAGIQTew8dNYwOuH/qdJUnCaf53F59qJ 0eRUb7W/9jajX/ybsZPig+VvVYCm/PtSX4SHDnXg2/CZ33NHE5iDrn+zFf56+waIxgpZ Vrzc+p/i9tq91dcwWL4ejM3NfFRJ5243B0ZUsoIUjrBO8QyjrzfQisguHsNgYcmswCri KqQjXHXPrBWGQ2p273WLQ2a3v7xxZFQcjSX66cuL3PifsWr2/tXDFXseRuwTzc1o2+H/ w7UkdaFxPC36BLRmm7LUGDVsyTv5i2S+3HgmyereUnioHi2d/BBeJganBqm18Yu3IYWZ zu5g== Received: by 10.180.99.99 with SMTP id ep3mr10384371wib.15.1352632190707; Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:09:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from energy.localnet (p4FC60A67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.10.103]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm6351308wiz.10.2012.11.11.03.09.48 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 11 Nov 2012 03:09:49 -0800 (PST) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: =?utf-8?B?5b6u6JSh?= Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 12:09:46 +0100 Message-ID: <112728911.Mbjymg5zaZ@energy> User-Agent: KMail/4.9.2 (Linux/3.4.14; KDE/4.9.3; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <2592463.C9mGjqLMLj@gentoo> References: <509EB17D.7050908@coolmail.se> <2592463.C9mGjqLMLj@gentoo> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: d8e43f80-b2e2-4efc-b21e-37737f226b63 X-Archives-Hash: 06114d060fed2e02835b58f728ee7899 Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb =E5=BE=AE=E8=94=A1: > =E5=9C=A8 2012=E5=B9=B411=E6=9C=8810=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E5=85= =AD 20:56:45=EF=BC=8Cpk =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A >=20 > > On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote: > > > :) systemd is coming whether you or I like it or not so I'm tryi= ng to > > >=20 > > > stay a bit ahead of the tsunami, that's all. > >=20 > > Yes, systemd may be coming and may even become mandatory for >=20 > the Linux >=20 > > kernel (given it's marriage with udev). when that comes, I'd rather= go > > *BSD or even Windows for that matter. The current plan is going >=20 > mdev, >=20 > > following Walter Dnes fine example, when I can find the time >=20 > (perhaps >=20 > > during xmas). >=20 > byebye haters . Comunitiy doesn't need people like you. wrong, it does need people like him. Following one 'messiah' like sheep= (in=20 this case Poettering and his pulseaudio/systemd mess) is not the RIGHT = THING=20 to do. There are always better solutions to a specific problem. > a new >=20 > > > kernel from Linus every morning and file kernel bug reports when > > > appropriate. If I do find a kernel bug I may need to >=20 > recompile/reboot >=20 > > > many times as quickly as my machine can do it, so saving 15-20 >=20 > seconds >=20 > > > per reboot cycle just feels less painful :) > >=20 if you can sacr 15-20 seconds there is something else broken. 20 second= s is=20 the overall my box needs - with most time spent in bios. Without system= d. > =09You maybe paid by some Linux hate company to express like this. I conclude you have no idea what you are talking about. Attacking peopl= e who=20 have other NEEDS than you and so use a different SOLUTION is just wrong= . But what to expect from someone with a 'fedora' email adress. Fedora ak= a=20 Redhat aka acting obnoxoius and pushing sub par solutions or try to be = as=20 incompatible as possible to everybody else.... (see rpm mess, gcc 2.96 and other examples) --=20 #163933