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* [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
@ 2005-09-07 20:36 Vernon A. Fort
  2005-09-07 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Vernon A. Fort @ 2005-09-07 20:36 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm 
-qi basesystem.  I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would 
like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured.  Any pointers?

Vernon
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
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@ 2005-09-07 21:13 ` Ian Clowes
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From: Ian Clowes @ 2005-09-07 21:13 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user



"Vernon A. Fort" wrote:
> 
> With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm
> -qi basesystem.  I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would
> like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured.  Any pointers?


Hi

Possibly a little empirical, but on things like the mod date on the root
lost+found directory and the first few lines of /var/log/emerge.log come
to mind.

IanC
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-07 20:36 [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date Vernon A. Fort
@ 2005-09-07 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
  2005-09-08  1:04 ` Nick Rout
  2005-09-08  5:32 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2005-09-07 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:36:59 -0500, Vernon A. Fort wrote:

> With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm 
> -qi basesystem.  I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would 
> like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured.  Any pointers?

head /var/log/emerge.log should do it, unless you logrotated it.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

 Q:  How does a Zen Master order a hot dog?
 A: "Make me one with everything."

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-07 20:36 [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date Vernon A. Fort
  2005-09-07 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2005-09-08  1:04 ` Nick Rout
  2005-09-08  2:35   ` Willie Wong
  2005-09-08  5:32 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Rout @ 2005-09-08  1:04 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

emerge genlop
genlop -l | head

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 15:36:59 -0500
Vernon A. Fort wrote:

> With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm 
> -qi basesystem.  I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would 
> like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured.  Any pointers?
> 
> Vernon
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-08  1:04 ` Nick Rout
@ 2005-09-08  2:35   ` Willie Wong
  2005-09-08  5:18     ` Nick Rout
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Willie Wong @ 2005-09-08  2:35 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 01:04:41PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> emerge genlop
> genlop -l | head
> 

actually, this is exactly the same as just typing 

head /var/log/emerge.log

genlop is an emerge.log parser after-all. So both suffers the same
deficiency that if you logrotate emerge.log, then you lose the
information. 

W
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because they d \phi common-sense.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-08  2:35   ` Willie Wong
@ 2005-09-08  5:18     ` Nick Rout
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From: Nick Rout @ 2005-09-08  5:18 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 22:35 -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 01:04:41PM +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> > emerge genlop
> > genlop -l | head
> > 
> 
> actually, this is exactly the same as just typing 
> 
> head /var/log/emerge.log
> 
> genlop is an emerge.log parser after-all. So both suffers the same
> deficiency that if you logrotate emerge.log, then you lose the
> information. 

all true i guess, i don't logrotate mine for that very reason.

> 

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-07 20:36 [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date Vernon A. Fort
  2005-09-07 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
  2005-09-08  1:04 ` Nick Rout
@ 2005-09-08  5:32 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2005-09-08  7:28   ` Nick Rout
  2005-09-08  8:02   ` Neil Bothwick
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2005-09-08  5:32 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Wednesday 07 September 2005 22:36, Vernon A. Fort wrote:
> With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm
> -qi basesystem.  I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would
> like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured.  Any pointers?
>
> Vernon

have a look into /etc?

Some of the files there got created but never change, so you may be lucky...

hm, I installed this box december 2002....? wow...
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-08  5:32 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2005-09-08  7:28   ` Nick Rout
  2005-09-08  8:02   ` Neil Bothwick
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Nick Rout @ 2005-09-08  7:28 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, 2005-09-08 at 07:32 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 September 2005 22:36, Vernon A. Fort wrote:
> > With redhat/fedora, you could find WHEN the box was installed using rpm
> > -qi basesystem.  I am switching most of my boxes to gentoo and I would
> > like to tell when the ORIGINAL install occured.  Any pointers?
> >
> > Vernon
> 
> have a look into /etc?
> 
> Some of the files there got created but never change, so you may be lucky...
> 
> hm, I installed this box december 2002....? wow...

Bingo! me too. The 5th actually :-)

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-08  5:32 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2005-09-08  7:28   ` Nick Rout
@ 2005-09-08  8:02   ` Neil Bothwick
  2005-09-08 17:05     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2005-09-08  8:02 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 07:32:10 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> have a look into /etc?
> 
> Some of the files there got created but never change, so you may be
> lucky...

And some of them come from tarballs so have the original creation date on
the author's machine. i have files in /etc that date back to before I
bought this computer.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

That's not a bug, it's a Free Enhanced Feature!

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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-08  8:02   ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2005-09-08 17:05     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2005-09-08 17:36       ` Neil Bothwick
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2005-09-08 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 08 September 2005 10:02, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 07:32:10 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > have a look into /etc?
> >
> > Some of the files there got created but never change, so you may be
> > lucky...
>
> And some of them come from tarballs so have the original creation date on
> the author's machine. i have files in /etc that date back to before I
> bought this computer.

yeah, you are right

but I searched a little bit around, I have even older files then the stuff 
in /etc -  lost&found from may 2002 (hm, when I bought my new harddisk, that 
seems to be correct ;) ) 
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-08 17:05     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2005-09-08 17:36       ` Neil Bothwick
  2005-09-08 17:56         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2005-09-08 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:05:57 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> but I searched a little bit around, I have even older files then the
> stuff in /etc -  lost&found from may 2002 (hm, when I bought my new
> harddisk, that seems to be correct ;) ) 

emerge.log seems to be the safest. That ties in nicely with my credit
card records for when I bought this computer and my laptop.


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* Re: [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date
  2005-09-08 17:36       ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2005-09-08 17:56         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2005-09-08 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thursday 08 September 2005 19:36, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:05:57 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > but I searched a little bit around, I have even older files then the
> > stuff in /etc -  lost&found from may 2002 (hm, when I bought my new
> > harddisk, that seems to be correct ;) )
>
> emerge.log seems to be the safest. That ties in nicely with my credit
> card records for when I bought this computer and my laptop.

hm, emerge.log had been removed in 2003 to save some space - so it does not 
tell me much about the first installation date ;)
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2005-09-07 20:36 [gentoo-user] Determine the original installation date Vernon A. Fort
2005-09-07 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2005-09-08  1:04 ` Nick Rout
2005-09-08  2:35   ` Willie Wong
2005-09-08  5:18     ` Nick Rout
2005-09-08  5:32 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2005-09-08  7:28   ` Nick Rout
2005-09-08  8:02   ` Neil Bothwick
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