From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E4fCU-0003Si-H8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:40:26 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7FDd33r017404; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:39:03 GMT Received: from smtpout.mac.com (smtpout.mac.com [17.250.248.87]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7FDZOHC019322 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:35:25 GMT Received: from mac.com (smtpin07-en2 [10.13.10.152]) by smtpout.mac.com (Xserve/8.12.11/smtpout05/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j7FDZsGm010834 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:35:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (cpe001217fa060b-cm0013718c1a36.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [70.24.10.222]) (authenticated bits=0) by mac.com (Xserve/smtpin07/MantshX 4.0) with ESMTP id j7FDZpvn009255 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 06:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives? From: Paul Hoy To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20050815092813.11e665c5@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> References: <20050815093712.EFBD.NICK@rout.co.nz> <200508141713.14929.menola@sbcglobal.net> <20050815112811.EFD3.NICK@rout.co.nz> <20050815092813.11e665c5@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:35:50 -0400 Message-Id: <1124112950.11599.0.camel@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 43c4ddf0-9ded-4075-b017-904b6ec18c82 X-Archives-Hash: d1590aad8a81a80f134420bc611f2648 On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 11:40:49 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: > > > However, when I first used gentoo I was always the first in my LUG to > > have the latest kde, evolution, mplayer etc, and that was running x86 > > not ~x86. My perception is that gentoo is no longer first off the block > > with stable releases. > > I think some of this confusion is caused by the way people switch between > two uses of the word stable. It can mean "doesn't crash", but then most > upstream latest packages fit there, and some long standing releases > don't. It can also mean "not changing" and this is what some people want > from a distribution. If you run a server farm, you don't want to be > continually upgrading just to get new features you don't need, you just > want a system that works with timely security fixes. This is why Debian > stable is so old, because for these people, old is good. Look at the > situation with Firefox recently, where a new testing ebuild seemed to > come out almost as soon as the previous one finished building. Great for > those who want the latest and greatest, not so good for those who want a > stable system. Gentoo gives you the choice, and even lets you pick and > mix, so don't complain because you make an unsuitable choice. > > If you want the latest now, you need to use the testing packages, because > the QA rules demand they remain in testing for a while. > > Thanks, Neil. Already have begun testing my luck with the testing packages. I'll see what happens. Thanks for your explanation of the testking packages. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list