From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1E4bjv-0004wl-7r for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:58:43 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j7F9uus1030822; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:56:56 GMT Received: from dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (loadbalancer2.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.4]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j7F9qDgp023307 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 09:52:15 GMT Received: from sf.rout.dyndns.org (60-234-144-216.bitstream.orcon.net.nz [60.234.144.216]) by dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz (8.13.2/8.13.2/Debian-1) with ESMTP id j7F9vd6S019483 for ; Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:57:40 +1200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo or Linux from Scratch - Perspectives? From: Nick Rout To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20050815092813.11e665c5@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> References: <20050815093712.EFBD.NICK@rout.co.nz> <200508141713.14929.menola@sbcglobal.net> <20050815112811.EFD3.NICK@rout.co.nz> <20050815092813.11e665c5@krikkit.digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:50:00 +1200 Message-Id: <1124099401.11891.9.camel@sf.rout.dyndns.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86.1/1021/Mon Aug 15 19:05:53 2005 on dbmail-mx4.orcon.co.nz X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archives-Salt: 30bbc8ba-41d4-4d89-b00b-6303139ca3b5 X-Archives-Hash: 0cdedf4224726eba6696ec46e2ce771d On Mon, 2005-08-15 at 09:28 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > I think some of this confusion is caused by the way people switch > between > two uses of the word stable. It can mean "doesn't crash", but then > most > upstream latest packages fit there, and some long standing releases > don't. It can also mean "not changing" and this is what some people > want > from a distribution. I think there is a third meaning with gentoo, namely when the ebuild is working well enough - this is independent of whether the upstream package is stable.(although it no doubt helps if it is). So you can have kde make a release (stable in their view) but gentoo takes some considerable time to make ebuilds that work acceptably, before they are marked stable (eg x86 cf ~x86) > If you run a server farm, you don't want to be > continually upgrading just to get new features you don't need, you > just > want a system that works with timely security fixes. -- Nick Rout -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list