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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <6c3931ca-944a-41b1-8980-6e6ac10faacd@gmail.com> <35dee577-dbb4-4422-8a7f-1e3dc5835a94@gmail.com> <4903736.31r3eYUQgx@rogueboard> From: Dale Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBGFSciYBEADcEGMyJBSuavKO/XKUVvgkxck7Nl8Iuu8N2lcnRji/rSKg5c1Acix1ll9i oW8JBCHwvn0+Xy60BvEsqcup3YSHw5STl/bR1ePEehtnYrg8FdjdS91+B805RfnKMm69rFVI wLSBHQrSG1yxHd8CloWoEdhmVtP24buajbh114bgXd9ahtpZrCVMrWdWYUg2mEXguGV5uNAh Rf8SWxDNc79w24JxsV34a8niMUYMjzWr0rafIbzk732X38vGjVMLo/2mMpkbp9mPp++LHoY+ 0Pet8zxxdXPJSCd475kza1AD+hhSyBZXB9yknYWgyY3cZe1rGmooJSi2KX4QxO7npwLThcO1 be6KKRkd35+Fi/a1BzVOHsZMiK/gcwxEFoMd27gir4ehaeHJfFXl+65w4hj0EsOZSxrJrm2C R50g5By2czSKP1bADEygFNpIJj51AR+wM88NImG2RPtlT2maYBzazvF05g65cdHXGp1C7W5P wwwKU2DgABB2t7N7z5A69LnryBRw4zUYDRRYLTYlBlYgg+xILm2c0OrBdxJgLJa7JE50Eo25 d3PFwt9J0gYvqy6sPFLl9So0sDg9zm0hKQtXOP5kgropUFGrNoJI+mjwF4rYLRBVzZwNAvlO OhEvHubBo3mEllv4x+FeptwXZxlk7gUsdqI8AxnFB8K9wi6FVQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgCGyMFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AW IQQSG1h01ruv/WNXc3Q3RqOgiQH1GwUCYVJy8gAKCRA3RqOgiQH1G+waEACeTZCt77jnRAmQ AV7otKuZekDWiLi3Eig8tj5ZJiCNSYA/hIxzmexRP0GMqjitcXK1iGwWcvMzzvIq30GAjIfB 4BR38cnXbtBa6fNewiT7QaZe/Hn6yBRldXNQypzbHy+/o27bUEy+oX4rE7etUgEHQAjuw7xz XFWg4tH1/KJvsOVY5upnWc5LdxYhsuQ3dQD4b22GsK0pOBDfb9PiirYM8eGKvrVuq4E/c75z lDDFhINl18lNZ9D0ZFL3IkTjHsAAqFH9uhnnEB8CWdHbBewPEfRaOhBUYWZ3Q8uTkmDgZT8q D9jlvLEdw7Nh2ApdxoepnI/4D+ql2Gr4DtH7SEPydr5gcf1Qr/2bXRb1hAYnIVcbncs/Bm3Z bkRKPVWMfE3Fusa+p5hMzixk0YysMaTHlc7mYRYAEZGnPMXnmcCbetwARU7A0yz1M1kCMOAQ Lsz8KH5kv3cRenMB6SFfjND2JfAK61H5TtnPq3L8noS2ZykRYxq9Nm3X64O1tJojIKBoZFr8 AwYNCvqC6puUyGMuzHPh7jPof8glfrrEKIYUvNPGMDoVX3IGetxh/9l6NcxgFA4JGoR+LS3C zmeNrwlllAe3OEUfKoWVQ+pagpSdM+8hHolaSda4Ys66Z3fCR4ZvcTqfhTAVskpqdXa4isAk 7vTcXu3L499ttywEp7rJTbkCDQRhUnImARAAncUdVhmtRr59zqpTUppKroQYlzR0jv8oa7DG K4gakTAT2N7evnI9wpssmzyVk8VEiLzhnFQ/Ol3FRt6hZCXDJt0clyHOyTfvz/MNFttWuZTc mLpSvmRR6VRjAH+Tz3Eam2xUw3PGuH97BcXQ3NnX3msv1UDxtxxBu6e2YrdeOhrCUSgzokcJ 98ChUNy934cgepPybAI12lSWqVFQ1aG7jExZfiUk+333fPSDbpKoZbTW5YJLXbycmW/C1IWL qYQyNjRWKaGoJtUWFhhmNiOQct7n90aKivNVPavmN+UQ9LlMaINtf9T6XCzLfogCFsulDCDJ 0yNQLDTurHaB4E71xoctgXmLLq9z1RQ0W2XiVAAOZQj6K3+d0AOUjDhCQ2QW8dUSq0ckkZXV DKVJOGS8Nhf2eIWIqRnP3AcUiiaiFGqUaVUmUAZ6h/oJmgghEu/1S+pcuUKU5i69+XCZ3hH2 Jzwzbf7K+FAIkOhCfHncF8i1N1pk00pOVykNnqHTfFo3qFusHt0ZWgXVnnn4pYdXqZNoDhvF BRE5Vm4k/k96Pw8HRx6Os6eFSRrlqGzRgqsu86FekxusXB9UGv4lJhtU/J+8MRWsh22K718s DbQnABicGKFz1qQlWvcf59oTByhLINJCBt1WXl+TzJDXepr3QSkqmK41dO9Hob97C9dMiK8A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIAIbDBYhBBIbWHTWu6/9Y1dzdDdGo6CJAfUbBQJhUnLyAAoJEDdGo6CJ AfUbVHIQAKSWw620vPhR3A/njU2z77F3z/Jk+HTKdE3fIyWSWdkYN7CBFL0NguOMP30WZ+qE sJhZu7T5hf251MwQUUt27xlfnKYOmQs7CqONlXuXlGZI6WufrUjxNcVz+5gJsqvUWuuJWsgg sDmE92IBnfG/f81fPHWQyfr/SF4wYDMyoFp5xCCQpp1zB63iuFvvrhxBkEHzmbRtVDOhl0Xp BVEDR1w3QRACw9QJD/KM05Czv9JNQYlwinWO/OaQ9cMlUpKLgswUPg9IZ5vucxScfuAUA5uC B1jlAQ8ZPlVukBmbEv5RGOv+lpuEbA3YDMVtEeH4YMFbjt/+vH3Cr2vTbp5JlpByLburJEH0 WXZLUawEfUsZvVwpOuJK75vaa2HYXee+Cb3iCIzwfIfctdlqzUcbGRczlRNM59hpvj4z29Gh 3kAxVHItAYq54ikxQ9l4hQ8s9sLYPbX/WtcBxNX8crBSw0FLnmzGleVEtBHyqtt5CLzQNgrj GYWl1vKDUmRPw1CdZ1c+fMN9CY11jOM5B5ZnqZWfDeVYO2iJ5SuvTycChexCb8WYn1bdCBIo bBtga2RBXbVt4Mh9E4owsszefn51MwfjXxB20Fc5k3GU1AVpTCMs3ayYCzo0b2pvEvdjtDcA CYLEFPWgaFX9iQAM/CDfKvTtvgGWpqtCL2raq/mQoJEU Message-ID: <111e51bd-d914-cc8c-8980-f603917a76bf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2024 20:39:35 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.18.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4903736.31r3eYUQgx@rogueboard> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------9B7A42B9BBFECA5666475B4B" X-Archives-Salt: 068e6bec-c6d5-4c3b-8b8d-f8588998b0d6 X-Archives-Hash: 9bb93ef4b25825fdf0a98f832f65f0e8 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9B7A42B9BBFECA5666475B4B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Michael wrote: > On Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:31:30 GMT Dale wrote: >> >> Since my last post, I did my weekly updates. During that, I log out, >> switch to boot runlevel, restart anything that checkrestart says needs >> it, then back to default runlevel and log back in. With the config file >> change, my monitors came up just like they should. I didn't have to >> adjust anything. >> >> I guess it goes to show, one thing fixes one person's system while yet >> another fixes someone else's system. Go figure. ROFL >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > You don't need to replace openrc with systemd to use Wayland. These days I > run all my systems' desktops on Wayland and openrc. OpenRC will not interfere > with or try to replace my network settings, my cron jobs, my chronyd, syslog, > or whatever. > > Pipewire is the new sound server for KDE. Take a look here in case yours > needs some tweaking: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire > > I run on my main desktop with USE="-pulseaudio", but if you have any > applications which need pulseaudio you'll need to enable it, if you haven't > done this already. When pipewire first showed up, I was kinda hesitant about it.  Here's something new that is going to annoy me for a while until the bugs gets worked out and I figure out how to use it.  Then I got Kmix cut off.  I started using pipewire and it was like, cool.  It actually works pretty well.  The other day it did some strange things tho.  I would set the volume but every time it went to the next video in my play list, it would reset the volume to 0 or very close to it.  It was annoying since I kept having to turn it back up.  I ended up closing everything that would play sound and setting the volume levels where I wanted it.  I then restarted smplayer and such.  It has worked ever since.  I guess it got confused between some setting somewhere and what I wanted.  Doing it with all the apps gone seems to have fixed it.  So far, that's the only time it gave me any trouble and it could have been something I clicked by accident or something.  I don't know that it was pipewire's fault.  Could be, could have been me.  Since I use smplayer to watch TV, doing that reset while everything was closed, it also fixed the volume setting on mpv when I'm playing some temporary video to test and make sure a file is good, and in English.  It actually fixed two problems.  Oh, I also figured out how to set the audio in smplayer as well.  I used to have it set to a user setting in preferences to get sound.  Now it's using a regular device like it should.  Overall, I kinda like pipewire.  It does manage the sound better than Kmix did.  It not only manages devices but also manages apps as well.  Anyone who hasn't switched should give it a try.  Just look for both tabs.  One is for devices and one is for apps.  Have to check them both and adjust as needed.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------9B7A42B9BBFECA5666475B4B Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Michael wrote:
On Sunday, 3 March 2024 19:31:30 GMT Dale wrote:


Since my last post, I did my weekly updates.  During that, I log out,
switch to boot runlevel, restart anything that checkrestart says needs
it, then back to default runlevel and log back in.  With the config file
change, my monitors came up just like they should.  I didn't have to
adjust anything. 

I guess it goes to show, one thing fixes one person's system while yet
another fixes someone else's system.  Go figure.  ROFL 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

You don't need to replace openrc with systemd to use Wayland.  These days I 
run all my systems' desktops on Wayland and openrc.  OpenRC will not interfere 
with or try to replace my network settings, my cron jobs, my chronyd, syslog, 
or whatever.

Pipewire is the new sound server for KDE.  Take a look here in case yours 
needs some tweaking:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire

I run on my main desktop with USE="-pulseaudio", but if you have any 
applications which need pulseaudio you'll need to enable it, if you haven't 
done this already.

When pipewire first showed up, I was kinda hesitant about it.  Here's something new that is going to annoy me for a while until the bugs gets worked out and I figure out how to use it.  Then I got Kmix cut off.  I started using pipewire and it was like, cool.  It actually works pretty well. 

The other day it did some strange things tho.  I would set the volume but every time it went to the next video in my play list, it would reset the volume to 0 or very close to it.  It was annoying since I kept having to turn it back up.  I ended up closing everything that would play sound and setting the volume levels where I wanted it.  I then restarted smplayer and such.  It has worked ever since.  I guess it got confused between some setting somewhere and what I wanted.  Doing it with all the apps gone seems to have fixed it.  So far, that's the only time it gave me any trouble and it could have been something I clicked by accident or something.  I don't know that it was pipewire's fault.  Could be, could have been me. 

Since I use smplayer to watch TV, doing that reset while everything was closed, it also fixed the volume setting on mpv when I'm playing some temporary video to test and make sure a file is good, and in English.  It actually fixed two problems. 

Oh, I also figured out how to set the audio in smplayer as well.  I used to have it set to a user setting in preferences to get sound.  Now it's using a regular device like it should. 

Overall, I kinda like pipewire.  It does manage the sound better than Kmix did.  It not only manages devices but also manages apps as well.  Anyone who hasn't switched should give it a try.  Just look for both tabs.  One is for devices and one is for apps.  Have to check them both and adjust as needed. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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