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From: "J. Roeleveld" <joost@antarean.org>
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling
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On Friday, August 01, 2014 12:26:59 PM Philip Webb wrote:
> 140731 Walter Dnes wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann 
wrote
> > When reading pdf files, one expects images, so tiff and jpeg are
> > reasonable flags.  One does *NOT* expect audio stuff like phonon.
> > And phonon *DEMANDS SOMETHING*.  vlc is one of the options that 
satisfies
> > phonon's demands.  Or you could choose gstreamer and its gazillion
> > plugins.
> 
> Not quite (smile) ! -- I ran into this & sent bugs to Gentoo + KDE ;
> the outcome was that I discovered that Phonon doesn't in fact demand
> that you install the actual sound software :
> it works to do 'USE="gstreamer" --nodeps emerge phonon'
> & Kdelibs then compiles successfully as well.
> 
> If you compile KDE outside Portage, there's a "nosound" flag,
> but the Gentoo devs have implemented that to require 
'USE=<soundpkg>",
> perhaps knowing that it cb happily ignored via '--nodeps'.
> Just don't expect this to be documented anywere (grimace).

Do you still have the bug numbers for this?
I have a few machines without any sound support. If I can remove the 
entire sound system from it, it would save time during the updates.

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<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">On Friday, August 01, 2014 12:26:59 PM Philip Webb wrote:</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; 140731 Walter Dnes wrote:</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:47:29AM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; When reading pdf files, one expects images, so tiff and jpeg are</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; reasonable flags.  One does *NOT* expect audio stuff like phonon.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; And phonon *DEMANDS SOMETHING*.  vlc is one of the options that satisfies</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; phonon's demands.  Or you could choose gstreamer and its gazillion</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; plugins.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Not quite (smile) ! -- I ran into this &amp; sent bugs to Gentoo + KDE ;</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; the outcome was that I discovered that Phonon doesn't in fact demand</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; that you install the actual sound software :</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; it works to do 'USE=&quot;gstreamer&quot; --nodeps emerge phonon'</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &amp; Kdelibs then compiles successfully as well.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; If you compile KDE outside Portage, there's a &quot;nosound&quot; flag,</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; but the Gentoo devs have implemented that to require 'USE=&lt;soundpkg&gt;&quot;,</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; perhaps knowing that it cb happily ignored via '--nodeps'.</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Just don't expect this to be documented anywere (grimace).</p>
<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; ">&nbsp;</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Do you still have the bug numbers for this?</p>
<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I have a few machines without any sound support. If I can remove the entire sound system from it, it would save time during the updates.</p>
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