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* [gentoo-user] you have cruft in /proc remove it
@ 2008-04-17 15:37 Helmut Jarausch
  2008-04-17 21:00 ` maxim wexler
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Helmut Jarausch @ 2008-04-17 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hi,

does anybody know where the message
you have cruft in /proc remove it
comes from and what to do about it.

(It seems to be new with baselayout-2.0.0/openrc
but it's not mentioned in the upgrade guide)

Many thanks for a hint,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
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* Re: [gentoo-user] you have cruft in /proc remove it
  2008-04-17 15:37 [gentoo-user] you have cruft in /proc remove it Helmut Jarausch
@ 2008-04-17 21:00 ` maxim wexler
  2008-04-17 21:24   ` Daniel Pielmeier
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: maxim wexler @ 2008-04-17 21:00 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Here's a useful discussioin:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-254197-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-findcruft-start-50.html

--- Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> does anybody know where the message
> you have cruft in /proc remove it
> comes from and what to do about it.
> 
> (It seems to be new with baselayout-2.0.0/openrc
> but it's not mentioned in the upgrade guide)
> 
> Many thanks for a hint,
> 
> Helmut Jarausch
> 
> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
> RWTH - Aachen University
> D 52056 Aachen, Germany
> -- 
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 



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* Re: [gentoo-user] you have cruft in /proc remove it
  2008-04-17 21:00 ` maxim wexler
@ 2008-04-17 21:24   ` Daniel Pielmeier
  2008-04-17 22:15     ` Neil Bothwick
  2008-04-17 22:29     ` maxim wexler
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Pielmeier @ 2008-04-17 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

maxim wexler schrieb:
> Here's a useful discussioin:
> 
> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-254197-postdays-0-postorder-asc-highlight-findcruft-start-50.html
> 
> --- Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> does anybody know where the message
>> you have cruft in /proc remove it
>> comes from and what to do about it.
>>
>> (It seems to be new with baselayout-2.0.0/openrc
>> but it's not mentioned in the upgrade guide)
>>
>> Many thanks for a hint,
>>
>> Helmut Jarausch
>>
>> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
>> RWTH - Aachen University
>> D 52056 Aachen, Germany
>> -- 
>> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>>

First: Don't top post!

Second: I don't think this is normal filesystem cruft like which is 
discussed in the forum. The proc (proc <- Process information 
pseudo-filesystem) filesystem contains information about the state of 
your system and the running processes and there are no real files in it. 
The same goes for /dev (udev) /sys (sysfs).
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* Re: [gentoo-user] you have cruft in /proc remove it
  2008-04-17 21:24   ` Daniel Pielmeier
@ 2008-04-17 22:15     ` Neil Bothwick
  2008-04-17 22:25       ` Daniel Pielmeier
  2008-04-17 22:29     ` maxim wexler
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Neil Bothwick @ 2008-04-17 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:24:20 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

> Second: I don't think this is normal filesystem cruft like which is 
> discussed in the forum. The proc (proc <- Process information 
> pseudo-filesystem) filesystem contains information about the state of 
> your system and the running processes and there are no real files in
> it. 

Is the message referring to the proc filesystem or the /proc mount point
before it is mounted? Do you see anything if you do

mount --bind / /mnt/tmp
ls -l /mnt/tmp/proc


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* Re: [gentoo-user] you have cruft in /proc remove it
  2008-04-17 22:15     ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2008-04-17 22:25       ` Daniel Pielmeier
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Pielmeier @ 2008-04-17 22:25 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Neil Bothwick schrieb:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:24:20 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> 
>> Second: I don't think this is normal filesystem cruft like which is 
>> discussed in the forum. The proc (proc <- Process information 
>> pseudo-filesystem) filesystem contains information about the state of 
>> your system and the running processes and there are no real files in
>> it. 
> 
> Is the message referring to the proc filesystem or the /proc mount point
> before it is mounted? Do you see anything if you do
> 
> mount --bind / /mnt/tmp
> ls -l /mnt/tmp/proc
> 
> 

No, i also scanned through /var/log/rc.log and do not have a single 
occurrence of message like this!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] you have cruft in /proc remove it
  2008-04-17 21:24   ` Daniel Pielmeier
  2008-04-17 22:15     ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2008-04-17 22:29     ` maxim wexler
  2008-04-18  4:29       ` [gentoo-user] [ot] " Dan Farrell
  2008-04-18  6:47       ` [gentoo-user] [OT] Top-post with full quote (was: you have cruft in /proc remove it) Michael Schmarck
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: maxim wexler @ 2008-04-17 22:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

> First: Don't top post!
> 

Big whoop! The two posts are tiny -- it's easy to see
at a glance which is the original and which the reply.


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* Re: [gentoo-user]  [ot] you have cruft in /proc remove it
  2008-04-17 22:29     ` maxim wexler
@ 2008-04-18  4:29       ` Dan Farrell
  2008-04-18  6:47       ` [gentoo-user] [OT] Top-post with full quote (was: you have cruft in /proc remove it) Michael Schmarck
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Dan Farrell @ 2008-04-18  4:29 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:29:55 -0700 (PDT)
maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > First: Don't top post!
> > 
> 
> Big whoop! The two posts are tiny -- it's easy to see
> at a glance which is the original and which the reply.
> 

What's with people making the biggest deal out of this?  The ubuntu
mailing lists just had a huge discussion about it.  
 
I have seen the signature (something like this)

A: Because it puts the answers before the questions.  
Q: Why is top-posting bad?

But I think it goes more like this: 

Q: Why is top-posting bad?
A: You said, "Why is top-posting bad?"  
   Top posting is bad because ... 

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* [gentoo-user]  [OT] Top-post with full quote (was: you have cruft in /proc remove it)
  2008-04-17 22:29     ` maxim wexler
  2008-04-18  4:29       ` [gentoo-user] [ot] " Dan Farrell
@ 2008-04-18  6:47       ` Michael Schmarck
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michael Schmarck @ 2008-04-18  6:47 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

maxim wexler <blissfix@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> First: Don't top post!
>> 
> 
> Big whoop! The two posts are tiny -- it's easy to see
> at a glance which is the original and which the reply.

And since your post was so tiny, you really should have
trimmed what you quoted. This could easily mean, that
all the original text is removed.

The way you did it, was simply no good.

Michael

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2008-04-17 21:00 ` maxim wexler
2008-04-17 21:24   ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-04-17 22:15     ` Neil Bothwick
2008-04-17 22:25       ` Daniel Pielmeier
2008-04-17 22:29     ` maxim wexler
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