[gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram?

[gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram?

[james]

Folks,

Now, if/when this devices "is shipping", I can finally build out a 12VDC 
pickup camper gentoo centric  "deep woods" mobile dev_shop.

I kid you not:
"Upton says the 64-bit image is for power users who want to map all 8GB 
into the address space of a single process. It's currently in beta and 
misses several key features, but once ready it will provide a 64-bit 
alternative to 64-bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo."

GENTOO?   Wonder who is behind that bit of work?



https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-raspberry-pi-4-8gb-ram-model-out-now-for-75-plus-you-get-a-new-64-bit-os/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=29128215408769320614767878147805&mid=12853938&cid=2217268782

No kidding:

"Even the Raspberry Pi beginner's guide had a reference to an 8GB 
variant, while the Pi 4's Broadcom BCM2711 chip supports up to 16GB of 
LPDDR4 SDRAM."

16 G on  a pi?

I'm all in. Can Anyone  verify this offer?


curiously,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram?

[urpion]

On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:36:29PM -0400, james wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Now, if/when this devices "is shipping", I can finally build out a 12VDC
> pickup camper gentoo centric  "deep woods" mobile dev_shop.
>
> I kid you not:
> "Upton says the 64-bit image is for power users who want to map all 8GB
> into the address space of a single process. It's currently in beta and
> misses several key features, but once ready it will provide a 64-bit
> alternative to 64-bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo."
>
> GENTOO?   Wonder who is behind that bit of work?
>
>
>
> https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-raspberry-pi-4-8gb-ram-model-out-now-for-75-plus-you-get-a-new-64-bit-os/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=29128215408769320614767878147805&mid=12853938&cid=2217268782
>
> No kidding:
>
> "Even the Raspberry Pi beginner's guide had a reference to an 8GB
> variant, while the Pi 4's Broadcom BCM2711 chip supports up to 16GB of
> LPDDR4 SDRAM."
>
> 16 G on  a pi?
>
> I'm all in. Can Anyone  verify this offer?
>
>
> curiously,
> James
>

Yeah! "deep woods" I like it. I wanna make a mobile 12V system too.

Re: [gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram?

[james]

On 6/20/20 1:12 AM, urpion@gmx.com wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:36:29PM -0400, james wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> Now, if/when this devices "is shipping", I can finally build out a 12VDC
>> pickup camper gentoo centric  "deep woods" mobile dev_shop.
>>
>> I kid you not:
>> "Upton says the 64-bit image is for power users who want to map all 8GB
>> into the address space of a single process. It's currently in beta and
>> misses several key features, but once ready it will provide a 64-bit
>> alternative to 64-bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo."
>>
>> GENTOO?   Wonder who is behind that bit of work?
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-raspberry-pi-4-8gb-ram-model-out-now-for-75-plus-you-get-a-new-64-bit-os/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=29128215408769320614767878147805&mid=12853938&cid=2217268782
>>
>> No kidding:
>>
>> "Even the Raspberry Pi beginner's guide had a reference to an 8GB
>> variant, while the Pi 4's Broadcom BCM2711 chip supports up to 16GB of
>> LPDDR4 SDRAM."
>>
>> 16 G on  a pi?
>>
>> I'm all in. Can Anyone  verify this offer?
>>
>>
>> curiously,
>> James
>>
> 
> Yeah! "deep woods" I like it. I wanna make a mobile 12V system too.

12 VDC is pretty standard now for RV, boats and many environments. It's 
about finding, testing and deploying advanced gentoo systems on 12VDC 
where is can turn into a remote, secure palace. Surely I'll post, when 
my vision is ready.  I think, for me, usb4 is also quintessentially 
important. Jump into gentoo-embedded to find out what's going on any 
time. embedded and 12VDC, are synonymous, imho.

Microwaves, TVs, audio systems and host of other "fun-toys" can also all 
run on 12VDC.

Bye the way, deep woods is quite similar to ski-lodge, cross-ocean 
cruising, mountain climbing, arctic retreat,
island living, ranch-cabin, horse-back-camping etc etc. 12 vdc can store 
energy on batteries, such as optimas, yellow-top & redtop & bluetop and 
all sorts of exotic metal based batteries. A small energy footprint, is 
good for the earth, and 12vdc brings folks "closer together" so it is 
the ultimate e4nergy source on cozy nights with the ones you love....

Diverting money from the large electric grid operators?
....priceless....

Re: [gentoo-user] R.pi 64 bit with 8/16 G ram?

[Michael]

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On Saturday, 20 June 2020 06:12:28 BST urpion@gmx.com wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 01:36:29PM -0400, james wrote:
> > Folks,
> > 
> > Now, if/when this devices "is shipping", I can finally build out a 12VDC
> > pickup camper gentoo centric  "deep woods" mobile dev_shop.
> > 
> > I kid you not:
> > "Upton says the 64-bit image is for power users who want to map all 8GB
> > into the address space of a single process. It's currently in beta and
> > misses several key features, but once ready it will provide a 64-bit
> > alternative to 64-bit versions of Ubuntu and Gentoo."
> > 
> > GENTOO?   Wonder who is behind that bit of work?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-raspberry-pi-4-8gb-ram-model-out-now-for
> > -75-plus-you-get-a-new-64-bit-os/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=291282154087693
> > 20614767878147805&mid=12853938&cid=2217268782
> > 
> > No kidding:
> > 
> > "Even the Raspberry Pi beginner's guide had a reference to an 8GB
> > variant, while the Pi 4's Broadcom BCM2711 chip supports up to 16GB of
> > LPDDR4 SDRAM."
> > 
> > 16 G on  a pi?
> > 
> > I'm all in. Can Anyone  verify this offer?
> > 
> > 
> > curiously,
> > James
> 
> Yeah! "deep woods" I like it. I wanna make a mobile 12V system too.

There may be better set-top boxes for the total cost of RPi + peripherals you 
would need to run it, but I have not looked into ARM embedded options for some 
time now.  For routers and high throughput miniservers I prefer amd64 
embedded, which cope much better esp. with AES-NI hardware encryption 
processing.

Anyway, according to the man behind RPi 16G is upper limit of what this BCM 
SoC can run theoretically, but:

"There really, really isn't a 16GB package that we could use, or a way to use 
a pair of packages ..."

https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/raspberry-pi-4-how-much-ram

I would think even if fatter RAM modules could fit on the board, power supply 
and cooling issues would introduce other design constraints and also push the 
price point above the market segment RPi are targetting.

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