Re: [gentoo-user] Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

[FredL <raptor@drakonix.fr>]

Le 2013/07/22 23:08, Alan McKinnon a écrit :
> On 23/07/2013 00:02, FredL wrote:
> Le 2013/07/22 22:44, Alan McKinnon a écrit :
> On 22/07/2013 23:35, FredL wrote:
> 
> Do you perhaps have NetworkManager or wicd installed?
> 
> 
> no, none of them, it is a very basic install, with only the minimum
> packages installed . I have checked at the init script and find a line
> in the depend section saying :
> 
> after lo lo0 dbus
> 
> but dbus is not yet installed, can this be the cause of my problem?
> 
> so I have just installed dbus and add it to default runlevel and my
> net.* script are loaded correctly setting my static config, so every
> thing is fine now.
> 
> But why do we need dbus in a very minimalistic system? I was thinking
> that it would be helpful in a full desktop environnement for
> automagically mounting device and things like that...
> 
> 
> 
> dbus is NOT a desktop daemon. This is very important, and that single
> misunderstanding is probably behind all the fud you read about it.
> 
> dbus implements a message bus - an amazingly useful thing to have.
> 
> Why do you need or want a message bus?
> 
> You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC you
> already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light daemon,
> can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to many of the
> IPC implementations you already have. Those are the ones that don't
> happen to show up in ps so you hear very little whinging about them.
> 
> That desktop systems are the main user of dbus at this point in time
> doesn't change one bit what dbus is designed to do and it's usefulness.
> 
> ok, thanks for your explanation and your help, my last fresh install 
> was
> a very long time ago and I can't remember having to install dbus before
> having my net script working, but a lot of things have changed since
> this last install and that is probably what I miss in this fresh 
> install
> process
> 
> I wonder why you didn;t have dbus installed. You said you copied the 
> new
> install over from an old one, right?
> 
> So emerge world should have pulled in everything you need.
> 
> What's different between that new install and the old one?


I just use my current gentoo system for building a new one from scratch, 
so I only use my current system as it was only a livecd. I won't use my 
current world file or anything else coming from my current system 
(except things like hostname, hosts, or kernel config).  In fact I'm 
building a little script for deploying a very basic gentoo system 
without typing the full list of commands listed in the installation 
documentation. Just a hobby for lazy guy ;)
Another reason for this fresh install is that I plan to write a full doc 
for describing the installation process for building a cluster hosting 
my own services (ftp, web, mail, etc...) in a para virtualised 
environnement (xen) . So I don't want to have any rubish coming from the 
desktop I currently used, and want to keep things as clean as possible.