[gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[Peter Humphrey]

Hello list,

Since about the time of the last batch of plasma upgrades (I forget whether it was applications, frameworks or Qt), every time I reboot the box from the KDE reboot dialogue, when I log in again I get duplicated apps and others with forgotten places and sizes.

The attached screenshot shows a desktop with an empty KMail ready to receive imported messages and generally get going, together with gkrellm showing three computers.

After a reboot I get "Too many clients" from the remote krells, the local krell is absent (and if I restart it it comes up in the centre of the screen) and Firefox attempts to run two instances. I have to pkill the lot and start them again.

If I stop these programs before rebooting, all is well when I restart them later, so I suspect the KDE/plasma setup is the guilty party.

I've reinstalled the complete system on bare silicon, created new accounts for myself, and anything else I can think of, just to be sure that I have nothing untoward hanging about.

Is anyone else having this problem?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:57:49 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> Is anyone else having this problem?

I can't answer for everyone, but I'm not.


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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday, 28 August 2018 11:51:04 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 09:57:49 +0000, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Is anyone else having this problem?
> 
> I can't answer for everyone, but I'm not.

I was sure I'd have heard all about it if anyone had been, but it was worth 
asking anyway.

I would suspect hardware, but this is all I have to go on:
1.	Smartd has been running regular tests on this NVMe disk and not 
reported anything.
2.	I've now changed the partition layout to ensure I was using new 
silicon; I shrank the /boot partition from 2G to 0.5G, so all the other 
partitions started 1.5G earlier on the disk.
3.	During all the reloading from an external drive I found a suspect USB 
port. I also noticed the UEFI startup process flickering the cursor around 
the screen before displaying the list of kernels. I haven't used that USB 
port since, and the flickering has subsided.
4.	I can't imagine it's a memory failure because of the repeatability of 
the problems.

So, things it isn't: memory, disk, power supply, software (identical USE 
etc. to before the problem appeared) - anything that would cause random 
errors.

The only other thing I can think of to do is to combine the first two 
partitions into one: that is, the empty partition for the UEFI and the VFAT 
/boot. You can see, though, that I'm reduced to clutching at straws.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[Daniel Frey]

On 08/28/18 02:57, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> Hello list,
> 
> Since about the time of the last batch of plasma upgrades (I forget whether it was applications, frameworks or Qt), every time I reboot the box from the KDE reboot dialogue, when I log in again I get duplicated apps and others with forgotten places and sizes.
> 
> The attached screenshot shows a desktop with an empty KMail ready to receive imported messages and generally get going, together with gkrellm showing three computers.
> 
> After a reboot I get "Too many clients" from the remote krells, the local krell is absent (and if I restart it it comes up in the centre of the screen) and Firefox attempts to run two instances. I have to pkill the lot and start them again.
> 
> If I stop these programs before rebooting, all is well when I restart them later, so I suspect the KDE/plasma setup is the guilty party.
> 
> I've reinstalled the complete system on bare silicon, created new accounts for myself, and anything else I can think of, just to be sure that I have nothing untoward hanging about.
> 
> Is anyone else having this problem?
> 

I've had the problem where it doesn't open any remembered windows at
all. I remembered this after I read this message.

I've also had the weird bug(?) resurface where it asks me twice for a
lock screen password. Some time ago I fixed that with an `emerge -e
--keep-going @world` but am waiting for cooler weather to let my PC chug
through that again.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[Andrew Udvare]

> On 2018-08-28, at 18:24, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On 08/28/18 02:57, Peter Humphrey wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> After a reboot I get "Too many clients" from the remote krells, the local krell is absent (and if I restart it it comes up in the centre of the screen) and Firefox attempts to run two instances. I have to pkill the lot and start them again.
>> 
>> If I stop these programs before rebooting, all is well when I restart them later, so I suspect the KDE/plasma setup is the guilty party.
>> 
>> I've reinstalled the complete system on bare silicon, created new accounts for myself, and anything else I can think of, just to be sure that I have nothing untoward hanging about.
>> 
>> Is anyone else having this problem?

Was it ever perfect? I have given up on relying on this feature especially since Chromium does not even launch after logging in again (has not happened in a long time). I just have keyboard shortcuts set up to get things back to how I want them (tiled in various ways, like 50% width, 25% width/height top-left/bottom-left/..., etc).

-- 
Andrew

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 20:51:06 -0400, Andrew Udvare wrote:

> Was it ever perfect? I have given up on relying on this feature
> especially since Chromium does not even launch after logging in again
> (has not happened in a long time). I just have keyboard shortcuts set
> up to get things back to how I want them (tiled in various ways, like
> 50% width, 25% width/height top-left/bottom-left/..., etc).

Chromium never did, so I dropped its desktop file into
~/.config/autostart. It was only when you posted this that I remember
Chromium wasn't being started by the session manager


-- 
Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE reboot not preserving running applications

[Peter Humphrey]

On Wednesday, 29 August 2018 01:51:06 BST Andrew Udvare wrote:
> > On 2018-08-28, at 18:24, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On 08/28/18 02:57, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> >> Hello list,
> >> 
> >> After a reboot I get "Too many clients" from the remote krells, the
> >> local krell is absent (and if I restart it it comes up in the centre
> >> of the screen) and Firefox attempts to run two instances. I have to
> >> pkill the lot and start them again.
> >> 
> >> If I stop these programs before rebooting, all is well when I restart
> >> them later, so I suspect the KDE/plasma setup is the guilty party.
> >> 
> >> I've reinstalled the complete system on bare silicon, created new
> >> accounts for myself, and anything else I can think of, just to be sure
> >> that I have nothing untoward hanging about.
> >> 
> >> Is anyone else having this problem?
> 
> Was it ever perfect?

Always, up to the recent onset of misbehaviour.

> I have given up on relying on this feature especially since Chromium does
> not even launch after logging in again (has not happened in a long time).

I don't often use Chromium so that doesn't bother me.

> I just have keyboard shortcuts set up to get things back to how I want
> them (tiled in various ways, like 50% width, 25% width/height top-left/
> bottom-left/..., etc).

Perhaps I should look into that. Meanwhile it's reassuring that I'm not 
going ga-ga and imagining this.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.