* Re: [gentoo-user] acrobat reader
2021-09-22 19:29 ` thelma
@ 2021-09-22 19:39 ` thelma
2021-09-22 19:58 ` Jack
2021-09-22 19:41 ` tastytea
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From: thelma @ 2021-09-22 19:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 9/22/21 1:29 PM, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 9/22/21 1:19 PM, Jack wrote:
>> On 2021.09.22 15:06, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> I have a pdf fillable form which I can only open in acrobat reader on Windows.
>>>
>>> Which package do I use to read these form on Gentoo?
>> You should be able to read them with any PDF reader. Not all readers will allow you to fill in the forms and save with the inserted data. I use Okular for that, but the dependencies may be a lot if you don't already run KDE. I wouldn't be surprised if the Gnome PDF reader (evince?) can also do it.
>>
>> Jack
>
> I have evince, it will not open it.
>
> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>
> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
I can open this file on Windows Acrobat Reader but when I try to save/print it as a PDF file via PDFcreator I'm getting some Ghoastscript error.
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2021-09-22 19:39 ` thelma
@ 2021-09-22 19:58 ` Jack
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From: Jack @ 2021-09-22 19:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2021.09.22 15:39, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 9/22/21 1:29 PM, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > On 9/22/21 1:19 PM, Jack wrote:
> >> On 2021.09.22 15:06, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> >>> I have a pdf fillable form which I can only open in acrobat
> reader on Windows.
> >>>
> >>> Which package do I use to read these form on Gentoo?
> >> You should be able to read them with any PDF reader. Not all
> readers will allow you to fill in the forms and save with the
> inserted data. I use Okular for that, but the dependencies may be a
> lot if you don't already run KDE. I wouldn't be surprised if the
> Gnome PDF reader (evince?) can also do it.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >
> > I have evince, it will not open it.
> >
> > This is the form I'm trying to open:
> >
> > https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
>
> I can open this file on Windows Acrobat Reader but when I try to
> save/print it as a PDF file via PDFcreator I'm getting some
> Ghoastscript error.
Yes, I see that okular (21.04.3) won't open it. Actually, okular does
say "This document has XFA forms, which are currently unsupported.
It's also odd that the message which is displayed implies that Acrobat
Reader is available for Linux, even though it's not available.
How is Ghostscript involved on Windows?
Is there any hope of complaining to the Alberta government that there
is no access to the form without being forced to use proprietary
software? (Probably not, but it's a thought.)
Finally, if you search for "acrobat xfa forms linux" you will find some
suggestions.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] acrobat reader
2021-09-22 19:29 ` thelma
2021-09-22 19:39 ` thelma
@ 2021-09-22 19:41 ` tastytea
2021-09-22 19:41 ` Charlotte Delenk
` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: tastytea @ 2021-09-22 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On 2021-09-22 13:29-0600 thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 9/22/21 1:19 PM, Jack wrote:
> > On 2021.09.22 15:06, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> >> I have a pdf fillable form which I can only open in acrobat reader
> >> on Windows.
> >>
> >> Which package do I use to read these form on Gentoo?
> > You should be able to read them with any PDF reader. Not all
> > readers will allow you to fill in the forms and save with the
> > inserted data. I use Okular for that, but the dependencies may be
> > a lot if you don't already run KDE. I wouldn't be surprised if the
> > Gnome PDF reader (evince?) can also do it.
> >
> > Jack
>
> I have evince, it will not open it.
>
> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>
> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
>
Okular 21.04.3 won't work either, I got a message box claiming I need
a newer version of Acrobat Reader and the content of the PDF is a
placeholder that reads “[…] your PDF viewer may not be able to display
this type of document […]”.
A warning above the document says that the document contains XFA forms
that are not supported.
Kind regards, tastytea
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2021-09-22 19:29 ` thelma
2021-09-22 19:39 ` thelma
2021-09-22 19:41 ` tastytea
@ 2021-09-22 19:41 ` Charlotte Delenk
2021-09-22 20:07 ` [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] " thelma
2021-09-22 20:12 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2021-10-08 9:28 ` Nikos Chantziaras
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From: Charlotte Delenk @ 2021-09-22 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On 9/22/21 21:29, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> On 9/22/21 1:19 PM, Jack wrote:
>> On 2021.09.22 15:06, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>> I have a pdf fillable form which I can only open in acrobat reader on Windows.
>>>
>>> Which package do I use to read these form on Gentoo?
>> You should be able to read them with any PDF reader. Not all readers will allow you to fill in the forms and save with the inserted data. I use Okular for that, but the dependencies may be a lot if you don't already run KDE. I wouldn't be surprised if the Gnome PDF reader (evince?) can also do it.
>>
>> Jack
> I have evince, it will not open it.
>
> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>
> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
>
The javascript code embedded inside explicitely checks for acrobat
reader version 9.0 or newer, as well as "XFA" (whatever that is) version
2.0 or newer. Maybe try installing app-emulation/wine and then running
acrobat reader using wine?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] acrobat reader
2021-09-22 19:41 ` Charlotte Delenk
@ 2021-09-22 20:07 ` thelma
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From: thelma @ 2021-09-22 20:07 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 9/22/21 1:41 PM, Charlotte Delenk wrote:
>
> On 9/22/21 21:29, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> On 9/22/21 1:19 PM, Jack wrote:
>>> On 2021.09.22 15:06, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
>>>> I have a pdf fillable form which I can only open in acrobat reader on Windows.
>>>>
>>>> Which package do I use to read these form on Gentoo?
>>> You should be able to read them with any PDF reader. Not all readers will allow you to fill in the forms and save with the inserted data. I use Okular for that, but the dependencies may be a lot if you don't already run KDE. I wouldn't be surprised if the Gnome PDF reader (evince?) can also do it.
>>>
>>> Jack
>> I have evince, it will not open it.
>>
>> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>>
>> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
>>
> The javascript code embedded inside explicitely checks for acrobat reader version 9.0 or newer, as well as "XFA" (whatever that is) version 2.0 or newer. Maybe try installing app-emulation/wine and then running acrobat reader using wine?
On gentoo "app-text/master-pdf-editor-5.7.90" WORKS
I can read and edit that file.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: acrobat reader
2021-09-22 19:29 ` thelma
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2021-09-22 19:41 ` Charlotte Delenk
@ 2021-09-22 20:12 ` Grant Edwards
2021-09-23 14:48 ` Laurence Perkins
2021-10-08 9:28 ` Nikos Chantziaras
4 siblings, 1 reply; 16+ messages in thread
From: Grant Edwards @ 2021-09-22 20:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2021-09-22, thelma@sys-concept.com <thelma@sys-concept.com> wrote:
> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>
> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
That's an abomination that use Javascript and dynamic XFA content:
https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/livecycle-dynamic-xfa-forms/
Whoever designed something like that for use by the general public
needs to have thier career terminated before they cause any more
damage.
--
Grant
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2021-09-22 20:12 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2021-09-23 14:48 ` Laurence Perkins
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From: Laurence Perkins @ 2021-09-23 14:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
The fact that the form is completely unsupported on mobile coupled with the way many people are moving exclusively to tablet/phone platforms these days might be enough to convince them that it's time for an update if you sent them a message about it. They generally like to preserve the illusion that they're competent.
The next version may or may not be worse than this one...
LMP
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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 1:13 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: acrobat reader
On 2021-09-22, thelma@sys-concept.com <thelma@sys-concept.com> wrote:
> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>
> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
That's an abomination that use Javascript and dynamic XFA content:
https://kbpdfstudio.qoppa.com/livecycle-dynamic-xfa-forms/
Whoever designed something like that for use by the general public needs to have thier career terminated before they cause any more damage.
--
Grant
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* [gentoo-user] Re: acrobat reader
2021-09-22 19:29 ` thelma
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
2021-09-22 20:12 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
@ 2021-10-08 9:28 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2021-10-08 14:44 ` Matt Connell (Gmail)
2021-10-09 17:45 ` thelma
4 siblings, 2 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2021-10-08 9:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 22/09/2021 22:29, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I have evince, it will not open it.
>
> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>
> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
I just opened this URL in firefox-bin-93.0, which claims support for
"XFA-based forms", and indeed I can fill it out just fine.
So finally solved, I suppose?
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2021-10-08 9:28 ` Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2021-10-08 14:44 ` Matt Connell (Gmail)
2021-10-09 17:45 ` thelma
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From: Matt Connell (Gmail) @ 2021-10-08 14:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Fri, 2021-10-08 at 12:28 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 22/09/2021 22:29, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> > I have evince, it will not open it.
> >
> > This is the form I'm trying to open:
> >
> > https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
>
> I just opened this URL in firefox-bin-93.0, which claims support for
> "XFA-based forms", and indeed I can fill it out just fine.
Good to know. Credit is due to Mozilla for their work on pdf.js I
suppose.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: acrobat reader
2021-10-08 9:28 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2021-10-08 14:44 ` Matt Connell (Gmail)
@ 2021-10-09 17:45 ` thelma
1 sibling, 0 replies; 16+ messages in thread
From: thelma @ 2021-10-09 17:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/8/21 3:28 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 22/09/2021 22:29, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> I have evince, it will not open it.
>>
>> This is the form I'm trying to open:
>>
>> https://cfr.forms.gov.ab.ca/Form/AHC0102.pdf
>
> I just opened this URL in firefox-bin-93.0, which claims support for "XFA-based forms", and indeed I can fill it out just fine.
>
> So finally solved, I suppose?
Thanks for pointing it out. So this is another solution; nice!
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