From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QvucX-0007Tw-KP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:18:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BD70F21C204; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EC121C1E5 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:17:20 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.68,269,1312153200"; d="scan'208";a="798253434" Received: from 213-152-39-90.dsl.eclipse.net.uk (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 23 Aug 2011 18:17:19 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.102] (unknown [192.168.1.102]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9E9AA398 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:16:39 +0100 (BST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1244.3) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd From: Stroller In-Reply-To: <2269917.TBy71Gn5NP@eve> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 18:17:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <0D8B951A-06D1-43B8-BD6D-46E7CB059746@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> References: <4E4C2CC4.6080604@xunil.at> <4E529FF7.2050704@xunil.at> <4E52C56E.3090808@xunil.at> <2269917.TBy71Gn5NP@eve> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1244.3) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 799398c01a558551ca5ae9477c0a3971 On 23 August 2011, at 07:27, Joost Roeleveld wrote: > ... >> * found this blog-entry against systemd: >>=20 >> http://monolight.cc/2011/05/the-systemd-fallacy/ >>=20 >> I agree, it might be more useful on desktops ... so far I am still >> exploring and learning to get to the point to make a decision where = and >> if to use. >=20 > I think it is more useful on desktops and laptops, which get rebooted=20= > regularly. On a server that tends to run for months without a reboot, = a fast=20 > init-system is important. >=20 > And I don't really see the point of D-BUS on a server either. All the = services=20 > that need to talk to each other already have working communication = paths. Reading that blog entry I found discouraging the idea that dbus might be = required on my servers in the future, if systemd becomes popular with = distros. Stroller.