From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O4Vwz-0006Wv-Us for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:10:31 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D54BAE0841; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpout.karoo.kcom.com (smtpout.karoo.kcom.com [212.50.160.34]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30703E0841 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:09:31 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,247,1270422000"; d="scan'208";a="183066926" Received: from 213-152-39-90.dsl.eclipse.net.uk (HELO compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org) ([213.152.39.90]) by smtpout.karoo.kcom.com with ESMTP; 21 Apr 2010 10:09:30 +0100 Received: from funf.stroller.uk.eu.org (funf.stroller.uk.eu.org [192.168.1.71]) by compaq.stroller.uk.eu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022E56C47A for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:09:28 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <0AC4DB55-4776-4FCF-AACB-A8F9FFD5940D@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> From: Stroller To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4BCEA90D.8050808@xunil.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-box stopping services Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:09:29 +0100 References: <4BCD97B0.3050305@xunil.at> <45344215-F2DA-46C6-97A3-117F13C2681D@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <4BCEA90D.8050808@xunil.at> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Archives-Salt: 77998910-7def-42c7-9bcb-378dc70f8449 X-Archives-Hash: dab28ced67c939541738b1215326ef3b On 21 Apr 2010, at 08:28, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: >> ... Does the system have sufficient swap? > > swap should be OK: > > # free -m > total used free shared buffers > cached > Mem: 501 484 17 0 16 > 241 > -/+ buffers/cache: 226 275 > Swap: 494 288 205 > > OK, a bit more RAM wouldn't hurt here. > But I am compiling stuff right now. I would add more. Services mysteriously dying, surely that could be because the kernel is killing them off due to an out-of-memory condition? Maybe you have changed to a different compiler version in the past, and this creates larger binaries? That seems a bit tenuous, I don't know, but you can use a swapfile on Linux (i.e. you can add to the current swap without having to create an additional partition), and I doubt if it is hard to set up. > ad updates: > > I was rather defensive there, I have to admit .. > Just like "never touch a running system" ... I seem to get into more trouble when I'm cautious with updates than I do when I just let 'em rip as often as possible. More frequent updates means fewer updates. Stroller.