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Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <306a8da4-22a2-425e-f183-992e0fca8431@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------77AA82F250316CF88451A35F" X-Archives-Salt: a84c66ae-036a-49ec-8129-4d0668e3f424 X-Archives-Hash: f063e5cdc67fdd4ee311cced21ee0a65 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------77AA82F250316CF88451A35F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Victor Ivanov wrote: > When the lbglvnd flag was introduced I remember I solved this issue by: > > # emerge --unmerge eselect-opengl > # emerge -1qv mesa > > After that, a simple update of @world rebuilt everything else on its own. > > Personally, I had been waiting for libglvnd support for _a long time_. > This - and I mean GLVND in general - is something that should have come > to Linux many years ago, along with NVIDIAs PRIME render offloading. > > 10y ago I used to have an Optimus laptop with an Nvidia GPU and it was > an absolute hell to get it running, I remember writing tonnes of scripts > using VirtualGL and a dummy X server running on the Nvidia GPU. This was > before bumblebee. > > Today, I still need this with an external GPU. > > But now it takes 1 environment variable to offload to the other GPU! > GLVND literally made my Linux work experience a million times better. > I'm extatic. > > - V > My change went quite well here.  I removed the flag entry everywhere and then did a emerge world, with the correct options of course.  I then logged out, went to boot runlevel, reloaded the video drivers, went back to default and logged in.  I can't tell any difference here video wise tho.  I did notice that my sddm problem is worse now.  It's worse now than it was when it first started.  In just a few hours it is consuming over 4GBs of memory.  That is ridiculous to me.  It using more than Firefox, both profiles, and any other software I have running.  I'm thinking about looking for a alternative to sddm.  I switched to it a while back but I don't like this memory hungry thing behaving this way.  Dale :-)  :-)  --------------77AA82F250316CF88451A35F Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Victor Ivanov wrote:
When the lbglvnd flag was introduced I remember I solved this issue by:

    # emerge --unmerge eselect-opengl
    # emerge -1qv mesa

After that, a simple update of @world rebuilt everything else on its own.

Personally, I had been waiting for libglvnd support for _a long time_.
This - and I mean GLVND in general - is something that should have come
to Linux many years ago, along with NVIDIAs PRIME render offloading.

10y ago I used to have an Optimus laptop with an Nvidia GPU and it was
an absolute hell to get it running, I remember writing tonnes of scripts
using VirtualGL and a dummy X server running on the Nvidia GPU. This was
before bumblebee.

Today, I still need this with an external GPU.

But now it takes 1 environment variable to offload to the other GPU!
GLVND literally made my Linux work experience a million times better.
I'm extatic.

- V


My change went quite well here.  I removed the flag entry everywhere and then did a emerge world, with the correct options of course.  I then logged out, went to boot runlevel, reloaded the video drivers, went back to default and logged in.  I can't tell any difference here video wise tho. 

I did notice that my sddm problem is worse now.  It's worse now than it was when it first started.  In just a few hours it is consuming over 4GBs of memory.  That is ridiculous to me.  It using more than Firefox, both profiles, and any other software I have running.  I'm thinking about looking for a alternative to sddm.  I switched to it a while back but I don't like this memory hungry thing behaving this way. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 
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