* [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to mod_dav_svn.so @ 2007-09-19 8:35 Daevid Vincent 2007-09-20 1:52 ` Daevid Vincent 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Daevid Vincent @ 2007-09-19 8:35 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Apache was working fine in 2.0.58, then an emerge world forced an update of apache2 to 2.2.4, now after a reboot, apache won't start! What's the point of running a 'stable' Gentoo system if it just keeps breaking things??! *sigh* It fails on 2.2.4 so I tried 2.2.6 (as it's marked stable too, and emerge world wants to do it anyways) and it still fails. [I] www-servers/apache Available versions: (2) 2.0.58-r2 2.0.59-r5 ~2.0.61 2.2.4-r12 2.2.6 {apache2 debug doc ldap mpm-event mpm-itk mpm-leader mpm-peruser mpm-prefork mpm-threadpool mpm-worker no-suexec selinux ssl static-modules threads} Installed versions: 2.2.6(2)(00:45:36 09/19/07)(-debug -doc ldap -mpm-event -mpm-itk -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-worker -no-suexec -selinux ssl -static-modules -threads) Homepage: http://httpd.apache.org/ Description: The Apache Web Server. # /etc/init.d/apache2 start * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: apache2: Syntax error on line 176 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/47_mod_dav_svn.conf: API module structure 'dav_svn_module' in file /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so is garbled - expected signature 41503232 but saw 41503230 - perhaps this is not an Apache module DSO, or was compiled for a different Apache version? Line 3 says: <IfModule !mod_dav_svn.c> LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so </IfModule> I have the stupid modules and they're all dated tonight (as in just built)! # ll /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 86792 Sep 19 00:45 /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 41528 Sep 19 00:45 /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_fs.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13760 Sep 19 00:45 /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_lock.so -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 115552 Aug 19 18:39 /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so My "/etc/conf.d/apache2" has: APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D LANGUAGE -D SSL -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D SUEXEC -D SVN -D SVN_AUTHZ -D DAV -D DAV_FS" This is what I originally followed to get SVN/Trac working: http://www.rockfloat.com/howto/gentoo-subversion.html#add_support_to_apa che -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* RE: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to mod_dav_svn.so 2007-09-19 8:35 [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to mod_dav_svn.so Daevid Vincent @ 2007-09-20 1:52 ` Daevid Vincent 2007-09-20 6:41 ` Naga 2007-09-20 7:42 ` Daevid Vincent 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Daevid Vincent @ 2007-09-20 1:52 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user Seriously? Not a single other person has this issue but me? Just because my web server has been down for an entire day due to this, I decided, OK, I'll just remove the DAV / SVN stuff and at least get the sites up. I changed the line in conf.d/apache2 to: APACHE2_OPTS="-D PHP5 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D LANGUAGE -D SSL -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D SUEXEC -D AUTH_MYSQL" Then took out all the *-trac.conf files from /etc/apache2/vhosts.d I had to recompile PHP and mod_auth_mysql as well b/c I got some other errors. Now I get the oh-so-helpful (not): # /etc/init.d/apache2 start * Starting apache2 ... [ !! ] Awesome. # tail -f error_log (2)No such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file /usr/lib/apache2/logs/bimagery-error_log. Unable to open logs Oh, so I look, and look at that, no directory or link, and apache2-extramodules is a broken link to God knows where that went! # ll /usr/lib/apache2/ total 84 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Sep 19 18:37 . drwxr-xr-x 105 root root 69632 Sep 11 22:49 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 build lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Sep 12 2005 extramodules -> /usr/lib/apache2-extramodules drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 modules apache2 # ln -vs /var/log/apache2 logs So now apache2 at least starts. __Still no Trac/SVN__. WHAT THE ($#*&@# IS GOING ON! WHY is Apache 2.4 forced upon me as 'stable' when it doesn't work and breaks all these modules!? > -----Original Message----- > From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:daevid@daevid.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:35 AM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to > mod_dav_svn.so > > Apache was working fine in 2.0.58, then an emerge world > forced an update > of apache2 to 2.2.4, now after a reboot, apache won't start! > > What's the point of running a 'stable' Gentoo system if it just keeps > breaking things??! > > *sigh* > > It fails on 2.2.4 so I tried 2.2.6 (as it's marked stable too, and > emerge world wants to do it anyways) and it still fails. > > [I] www-servers/apache > Available versions: (2) 2.0.58-r2 2.0.59-r5 ~2.0.61 2.2.4-r12 > 2.2.6 > {apache2 debug doc ldap mpm-event mpm-itk mpm-leader > mpm-peruser > mpm-prefork mpm-threadpool mpm-worker no-suexec selinux ssl > static-modules threads} > Installed versions: 2.2.6(2)(00:45:36 09/19/07)(-debug -doc ldap > -mpm-event -mpm-itk -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-worker -no-suexec > -selinux ssl -static-modules -threads) > Homepage: http://httpd.apache.org/ > Description: The Apache Web Server. > > # /etc/init.d/apache2 start > * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: > apache2: Syntax error on line 176 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax > error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/47_mod_dav_svn.conf: API > module structure 'dav_svn_module' in file > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so is garbled - expected > signature > 41503232 but saw 41503230 - perhaps this is not an Apache > module DSO, or > was compiled for a different Apache version? > > Line 3 says: > > <IfModule !mod_dav_svn.c> > LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so > </IfModule> > > I have the stupid modules and they're all dated tonight (as in just > built)! > > # ll /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 86792 Sep 19 00:45 > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav.so > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 41528 Sep 19 00:45 > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_fs.so > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13760 Sep 19 00:45 > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_lock.so > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 115552 Aug 19 18:39 > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so > > My "/etc/conf.d/apache2" has: > > APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D LANGUAGE -D SSL -D > SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D SUEXEC -D SVN -D SVN_AUTHZ -D DAV -D DAV_FS" > > This is what I originally followed to get SVN/Trac working: > http://www.rockfloat.com/howto/gentoo-subversion.html#add_supp > ort_to_apa > che > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to mod_dav_svn.so 2007-09-20 1:52 ` Daevid Vincent @ 2007-09-20 6:41 ` Naga 2007-09-20 7:49 ` Daevid Vincent 2007-09-20 7:42 ` Daevid Vincent 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Naga @ 2007-09-20 6:41 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user On Thursday 20 September 2007 03:52:59 Daevid Vincent wrote: > Seriously? Not a single other person has this issue but me? [Ignored] [...] > Oh, so I look, and look at that, no directory or link, and > apache2-extramodules is a broken link to God knows where that went! > > # ll /usr/lib/apache2/ > total 84 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Sep 19 18:37 . > drwxr-xr-x 105 root root 69632 Sep 11 22:49 .. > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 build > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Sep 12 2005 extramodules -> ^^^ > /usr/lib/apache2-extramodules Hmm look at the date here... what version of apache did you install this for? > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 modules > > apache2 # ln -vs /var/log/apache2 logs > > So now apache2 at least starts. __Still no Trac/SVN__. > > WHAT THE ($#*&@# IS GOING ON! WHY is Apache 2.4 forced upon me as 'stable' > when it doesn't work and breaks all these modules!? Both -2.0 and -2.2 are stable, you choose. Some major changes have occured here so read the release notes and upgrade guide from apache[1]. > > [I] www-servers/apache > > Available versions: (2) 2.0.58-r2 2.0.59-r5 ~2.0.61 2.2.4-r12 > > 2.2.6 [...] > > Installed versions: 2.2.6(2)(00:45:36 09/19/07)(-debug -doc ldap [...] > > # /etc/init.d/apache2 start > > * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: > > apache2: Syntax error on line 176 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax > > error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/47_mod_dav_svn.conf: API > > module structure 'dav_svn_module' in file > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so is garbled - expected > > signature > > 41503232 but saw 41503230 - perhaps this is not an Apache > > module DSO, or > > was compiled for a different Apache version? As seen later, this is the error or atleast one of the errors. > > > > Line 3 says: > > > > <IfModule !mod_dav_svn.c> > > LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so > > </IfModule> > > > > I have the stupid modules and they're all dated tonight (as in just > > built)! Look again. > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 115552 Aug 19 18:39 ^^^^ > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so Not this one! And it was this one that apache complained about, or? Hint; rebuild subversion, perhaps. [1] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/upgrading.html -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* RE: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to mod_dav_svn.so 2007-09-20 6:41 ` Naga @ 2007-09-20 7:49 ` Daevid Vincent 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Daevid Vincent @ 2007-09-20 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user; +Cc: 'Naga' LOL. Naga, I thank you for your reply. I think you were right about subversion, I've since reverted back to 2.0.59. Had I gotten your email a few hours earlier, I think things would be a whole lot different, but at the moment, it's more important for me to be "up" than "current". And my frustration level is fairly high ATM, so it's best I not attempt this again till more "kinks" are worked out. I do appreciate your ideas, and they will certainly come in handy in the future when I re-attempt this down the road. d > -----Original Message----- > From: Naga [mailto:nagatoro@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:41 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due > to mod_dav_svn.so > > On Thursday 20 September 2007 03:52:59 Daevid Vincent wrote: > > Seriously? Not a single other person has this issue but me? > [Ignored] > > [...] > > Oh, so I look, and look at that, no directory or link, and > > apache2-extramodules is a broken link to God knows where that went! > > > > # ll /usr/lib/apache2/ > > total 84 > > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Sep 19 18:37 . > > drwxr-xr-x 105 root root 69632 Sep 11 22:49 .. > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 build > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Sep 12 2005 extramodules -> > ^^^ > > /usr/lib/apache2-extramodules > > Hmm look at the date here... what version of apache did you > install this for? > > > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 modules > > > > apache2 # ln -vs /var/log/apache2 logs > > > > So now apache2 at least starts. __Still no Trac/SVN__. > > > > WHAT THE ($#*&@# IS GOING ON! WHY is Apache 2.4 forced upon > me as 'stable' > > when it doesn't work and breaks all these modules!? > > Both -2.0 and -2.2 are stable, you choose. > Some major changes have occured here so read the release > notes and upgrade > guide from apache[1]. > > > > > [I] www-servers/apache > > > Available versions: (2) 2.0.58-r2 2.0.59-r5 > ~2.0.61 2.2.4-r12 > > > 2.2.6 > [...] > > > Installed versions: 2.2.6(2)(00:45:36 > 09/19/07)(-debug -doc ldap > [...] > > > # /etc/init.d/apache2 start > > > * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your > configuration files: > > > apache2: Syntax error on line 176 of > /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax > > > error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/47_mod_dav_svn.conf: API > > > module structure 'dav_svn_module' in file > > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so is garbled - expected > > > signature > > > 41503232 but saw 41503230 - perhaps this is not an Apache > > > module DSO, or > > > was compiled for a different Apache version? > > As seen later, this is the error or atleast one of the errors. > > > > > > > Line 3 says: > > > > > > <IfModule !mod_dav_svn.c> > > > LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so > > > </IfModule> > > > > > > I have the stupid modules and they're all dated tonight > (as in just > > > built)! > > Look again. > > > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 115552 Aug 19 18:39 > ^^^^ > > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so > Not this one! And it was this one that apache complained about, or? > Hint; rebuild subversion, perhaps. > > [1] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/upgrading.html > > -- > Naga > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* RE: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to mod_dav_svn.so 2007-09-20 1:52 ` Daevid Vincent 2007-09-20 6:41 ` Naga @ 2007-09-20 7:42 ` Daevid Vincent 2007-09-20 7:56 ` [gentoo-user] " Remy Blank 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Daevid Vincent @ 2007-09-20 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user I've wasted two precious days now on this. I'm reverting back to good old apache 2.0.59. I found this link that might help other's http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-580341-highlight-apache.html Why does mod_auth_mysql REQUIRE apache 2.2 ?!?! UGH! I added this to my package.mask file: >=www-servers/apache-2.0.99 >=www-apache/mod_auth_mysql-3.0.0-r2 And ran: emerge -av apache mod_auth_mysql php subversion Thank God I have daily backups of all my /etc dir. A few ideas that I thought about that may help someone (or me even in a few months when I am no doubt forced to upgrade apache [again]) is that I think that you need to re-emerge the following things to get this all working, not to mention all the config files you have to touch, and broken links to fix: apache php mod_auth_mysql subversion While hindsight is 20/20, it really would have been helpful if the ebuild script triggered this, or a revdep-rebuild did or SOMETHING was smart enough to look for all the apache2 related stuff and re-compile. Someone in that link above offered a solution: # for i in $(qdepends -CNQ www-servers/apache); do emerge $i; done However, I don't have this "qdepends" thing, so that wasn't very helpful, but I think he's on the right track... -su: qdepends: command not found # eix qdepends No matches found. I have a suspicion that subversion is the key to the initial error I had re: mod_dav_svn. That may seem obvious now, it wasn't when my production server went down. Yeah, you can give me all your finger pointing about "you should have done a test server", etc... Well, some of us are a one-man shop with ONE server, and some VMWares who are trying to maintain a semi-stable system, while actually doing their real work. One "assumes" that "stable" means just that, Lord knows it takes forever for a package to actually be marked as such, you'd think it was worth the wait... ...now to figure out why hostapd is taking a crap on my face, ... Oh and why KDE is broken ... *sigh* > -----Original Message----- > From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:daevid@daevid.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 6:53 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due > to mod_dav_svn.so > > Seriously? Not a single other person has this issue but me? > > Just because my web server has been down for an entire day > due to this, I > decided, OK, I'll just remove the DAV / SVN stuff and at > least get the sites > up. > > I changed the line in conf.d/apache2 to: > APACHE2_OPTS="-D PHP5 -D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D LANGUAGE -D SSL -D > SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D SUEXEC -D AUTH_MYSQL" > > Then took out all the *-trac.conf files from /etc/apache2/vhosts.d > > I had to recompile PHP and mod_auth_mysql as well b/c I got some other > errors. > > Now I get the oh-so-helpful (not): > > # /etc/init.d/apache2 start > * Starting apache2 ... [ !! ] > > Awesome. > > # tail -f error_log > > (2)No such file or directory: apache2: could not open error log file > /usr/lib/apache2/logs/bimagery-error_log. > Unable to open logs > > Oh, so I look, and look at that, no directory or link, and > apache2-extramodules is a broken link to God knows where that went! > > # ll /usr/lib/apache2/ > total 84 > drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Sep 19 18:37 . > drwxr-xr-x 105 root root 69632 Sep 11 22:49 .. > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 build > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Sep 12 2005 extramodules -> > /usr/lib/apache2-extramodules > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 7 12:43 modules > > apache2 # ln -vs /var/log/apache2 logs > > So now apache2 at least starts. __Still no Trac/SVN__. > > WHAT THE ($#*&@# IS GOING ON! WHY is Apache 2.4 forced upon > me as 'stable' > when it doesn't work and breaks all these modules!? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:daevid@daevid.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 1:35 AM > > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > > Subject: [gentoo-user] apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to > > mod_dav_svn.so > > > > Apache was working fine in 2.0.58, then an emerge world > > forced an update > > of apache2 to 2.2.4, now after a reboot, apache won't start! > > > > What's the point of running a 'stable' Gentoo system if it > just keeps > > breaking things??! > > > > *sigh* > > > > It fails on 2.2.4 so I tried 2.2.6 (as it's marked stable too, and > > emerge world wants to do it anyways) and it still fails. > > > > [I] www-servers/apache > > Available versions: (2) 2.0.58-r2 2.0.59-r5 ~2.0.61 2.2.4-r12 > > 2.2.6 > > {apache2 debug doc ldap mpm-event mpm-itk mpm-leader > > mpm-peruser > > mpm-prefork mpm-threadpool mpm-worker no-suexec selinux ssl > > static-modules threads} > > Installed versions: 2.2.6(2)(00:45:36 > 09/19/07)(-debug -doc ldap > > -mpm-event -mpm-itk -mpm-peruser -mpm-prefork -mpm-worker -no-suexec > > -selinux ssl -static-modules -threads) > > Homepage: http://httpd.apache.org/ > > Description: The Apache Web Server. > > > > # /etc/init.d/apache2 start > > * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: > > apache2: Syntax error on line 176 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Syntax > > error on line 3 of /etc/apache2/modules.d/47_mod_dav_svn.conf: API > > module structure 'dav_svn_module' in file > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so is garbled - expected > > signature > > 41503232 but saw 41503230 - perhaps this is not an Apache > > module DSO, or > > was compiled for a different Apache version? > > > > Line 3 says: > > > > <IfModule !mod_dav_svn.c> > > LoadModule dav_svn_module modules/mod_dav_svn.so > > </IfModule> > > > > I have the stupid modules and they're all dated tonight (as in just > > built)! > > > > # ll /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav* > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 86792 Sep 19 00:45 > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav.so > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 41528 Sep 19 00:45 > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_fs.so > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 13760 Sep 19 00:45 > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_lock.so > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 115552 Aug 19 18:39 > > /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_dav_svn.so > > > > My "/etc/conf.d/apache2" has: > > > > APACHE2_OPTS="-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D LANGUAGE -D SSL -D > > SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D SUEXEC -D SVN -D SVN_AUTHZ -D DAV -D DAV_FS" > > > > This is what I originally followed to get SVN/Trac working: > > http://www.rockfloat.com/howto/gentoo-subversion.html#add_supp > > ort_to_apa > > che > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-user] Re: apache2 2.2.x fails to start due to mod_dav_svn.so 2007-09-20 7:42 ` Daevid Vincent @ 2007-09-20 7:56 ` Remy Blank 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Remy Blank @ 2007-09-20 7:56 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-user [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 504 bytes --] Daevid Vincent wrote: > Thank God I have daily backups of all my /etc dir. Put it under Subversion and you'll be even better off. > Someone in that link above offered a solution: > > # for i in $(qdepends -CNQ www-servers/apache); do emerge $i; done > > However, I don't have this "qdepends" thing, so that wasn't very > helpful, but I think he's on the right track... > > -su: qdepends: command not found > # eix qdepends > No matches found. emerge -av portage-utils -- Remy [-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 187 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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