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[74.188.243.161]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 66sm3653651ooj.0.2020.12.13.13.51.26 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 13 Dec 2020 13:51:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update fails, but I don't see why To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20201213081731.16f5dc53@digimed.co.uk> <050667f3-a6cc-a081-fabc-930fe074d5f1@web.de> <4281062.LvFx2qVVIh@lenovo.localdomain> From: Dale Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=rdalek1967@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFxc7MgBEAC+zrgEdqJJiDe/UDAB+ScmferXWfJTVjbVT2T4DQ7jiLrgP9aNUo1HioNF mrU3JPOCR32gvZyTbY1+niO5+VSo/+pSqQ785h6ZDj1klMkrg6tEzGnf2MNBpBj4houZwxQ+ WDKKTg2M9F+lv8wTIdR/JQn+hSviktLMtrghQlyLhpapsLXWLA6gMFebpQYwxUwemvan8ddX lQvJe9FGyFYvBi0dp1gl10F2O+DVZJxvX8xkX+yImVlhVJiC31gXHRcj+Qlo7gprlU7TIieF Uow6/ZvYKJ26pztVdFCg5w0rMJkF/x8Zd4A6wnuptiAPmWaQ1+YKgYDonbDUgwqFSx5/lN5z DGZ4LlioxeUTTPVvZsqBIeDz6jNFA583OYbo1/S26dqrvTFf2DKlsvoDpVfAhNlwJPjoixs0 X3FNqPv+M10n4kq5Iz7Q9E3O4s/nfFIYGocEslVka7zZPkXSaHbsn+KJlY8XV6qxtCEdh0/V XX1+1aU2J74M0JikWhpwxTZ1dP5aOyWSPPEgFFIRW6xwwC02SoRH9a7mggfGYp/YjPlONNaT SCL8sgRfvmq3D0XTbLyTjSbExxkfKDmbePQagawDE3TlI/oivHf1JaAcbwMb3LZuU4TGcOIl 5D+x7q0MUIeCop0ZFOwAnqW3AVVNvsBkv2KN+IHJryWAf0/iMQARAQABtBtEYWxlIDxyZGFs ZWsxOTY3QGdtYWlsLmNvbT6JAk4EEwEIADgWIQTZ7suruPBaS60bCYXvEM/XWu+ZnAUCXFzs yAIbIwULCQgHAgYVCgkICwIEFgIDAQIeAQIXgAAKCRDvEM/XWu+ZnN+7D/4/1dNG4aCz0+v+ 0dcjV5tY1feYEWCdHKyDzxWBxlCpd/0NPRQeNY4VMjbCl/sq7GkXi/c2SbfWDQ5BQRkkExG1 pSwuXSIehGok/4fpTi3HDAguRvzdCqlKPt7me05FyiC/WnpY5GOlJ3ruGw2qABv/RmV2q5b/ tkq7h1y1f16DTNr3/nsj8HzHcrHdXdL4kaYChSOe/dbQR9Stqak7eMyR+iwvrJMNF/CGl70P 2x5ybsXMDzRVOqNcpa5ZdhEMTVh6+vC1SOmm1BFMF8XCqBEvBbcHWDQmGYTdNCsS/ADm8CBl gvjJgLdIsAzoMu4WHQDFnzXAoArqFWgAf53isOS4AWrv29tF9b8Aa1vb7h5JEa+ArcMsA6Gl X38+GY6WXXaxKI9n3PTCWu9tPGnRh7mABjnwEosDDqmzw8aTAYECb3avDuGY2rmcjgh4H6RE w08d63j1T4d5J9wlm4TGtW/VHgbUFkATEdH3Acl/EjFiyqTiX7p8kU6Reu5enIkogA93xoQh Rmy7ZiST/5LN+ZkaOdyjIw0L+5KalslN9SKt809YxgJ6kPo657LNTFPiFvFA46/SEWcBYrzq Xk0wEW0gBRWf+BqN0qRhU0/EQ+QfRdLLFg2xtUePwlheYLXxfyDLrdCCOLWYpkzbjCZHLS4u 69smbvR9S9KBDNzJybxEWrkCDQRcXOzIARAA5IGRWTqaM44IJgBYghZg2fGj0Am7KWPhE7V7 T/EEe7vVSUEFqHtlHzI4ZK6Q0AZ9uAEjE8IJIQ7KoTjzNqAtabP0vp3s0szgtJlsZ+8vGKlQ my7fvzSrdoQL0Xn7CEwJYFXJ1EMUcYIQeoHG1cUAaXx73k9BFbjwjnUeMrqlV/ZovQlg7duW nESfQ7HZu5NrtYyY3jPMUouxiO9WQPh+IHxZbt1absF2VcvRAymD32RxGvMPbw6ChMRD/p9O 4PH7M5rXaxr78NXQX9E48vrI00f1cYb9NSN1HnSV8cW3jKObVjdBk6jPQwrMvdpgdQhUB9aZ HS/9mC9mmAgiXKyCpzXe7FPB6QznSfn4GIaC/luy1e6SLUkJhRK/niB+gq+Mfxg2zXNuDUTI cMGmpDCp3kgUoorkaltk8RW09io95BkXrGhcDNuSGZfAParBc7RXyYpbIcax8St7tEAd2oFh 4seYOPUlzuhGrPpqR/91wrFc4E1260GKauSr4UhMJv6tygBwyC0mmBMKi+ZXw6ZdZxA5fg7y 35P3TILjznCXXTDgRHq9A3NknKRMcgFacX6eIhANkMFo6oJVjuEgy1dvu1wFfDq7c+i8GAHu L4pYzyXYu6PporlNNU0xSwdVgzM/uuK0lt+UxCimgC+YR3IezgDcbfudb7h9dGIwL+bbPL0A EQEAAYkCNgQYAQgAIBYhBNnuy6u48FpLrRsJhe8Qz9da75mcBQJcXOzIAhsMAAoJEO8Qz9da 75mcXZ4P/1YXgWDZek7mhzrf6uaQzMxa92P89HeWz4PlgB/32symeEFAV04WazzBZffI8AYY rGA1Xmu/2VaB9+FOODyKhUWBc2UL0NRWBk6POwboyTdKlclmpixaN9zLcBt0YLejoRfN1B/5 aQf9/lUDZMnAiCyz0FgeqEMUshldmwWC35RqnjrCbbuk2vIqSH6BLDIXU6jQrLHE1DF0ai41 wLtQFAFXPhn45n0ZwYhVs4Z32z4sjXrIvgBgCaXa4HM+L1Klne0KiNM8ReFTTpTE0SgyDOSZ O3MOa2n77i6JbVtsbiFYnNeP3J9S/l3jevGpZEtNQOKrIm1MW8jGuHWtsDeMkT/mCcSodlkt PxIo+mMK9GpGvG2hW80LiohqNfUbNwAmr3blOYY4URPXPRnEnPs4pmTmL5owjw2dkg145i9I D42Tq+XZ6YtWt3SGzGbAYow6XwTwZ5NFAzV9UQuCGrDw4KWan6O6Z+VIYWsn0UMZlu1Obxna aocofkaUCbISK26kImuD1aA8juSHC18Qv1xUage6/UakbSxyDtACqt6hOVFKX3IA59ApdNRT +2x3iCmlvF9MJsGgFq6IpqL+Fk7iWV8Kjbz0wQOId6N9+JdQh3LrLaS7a1PowUm1z9DK5/O0 Yg+gpDnEOOFI7WM5u7a7FSM2Z/LXGVwel/0eWvLk9tN6 Message-ID: <04cd312b-dfa3-f543-88ae-2c3c82feef7c@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:51:24 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: d4eeb88c-799b-4c51-81e6-0ab71caed8c6 X-Archives-Hash: a8454e6bae7e9c9b53f4e9418e836c83 n952162 wrote: > On 12/13/20 10:55 AM, Michael wrote: >> On Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:57:53 GMT n952162 wrote: >>> On 12/13/20 9:18 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>> There's a lot to trawl through here, it looks like you haven't updated >>>> >>>>>> for quite some time. >>>>> The (compressed) log of  a system and world update from 20. October >>>>> (2020!) is attached. >>>> Nearly 2 months, quite a long time in Gentoo update terms. >>> !!!  After 2 months the system can no longer be update-able? >> A system can be updated and updatable after more than two months, but be >> prepared for some manual intervention and a staged approach to >> running emerge. > > > (I just discoved your posting, thank you) > > By staged approach, you mean first @system and then @world?  I've just > realized that doing this doesn't bring anything ;-) > >     emerge ... @system @world That should be emerge ... @system and when you get that done, then do emerge ... @world.  Sometimes that helps, sometimes not.  When stuck, it's worth a try.  > > >> Starting with 'eselect news read new' is advisable for any heads up >> to changes >> in gentoo, major packages and configuration. > > > Yeah, except I wouldn't know what to do about it. > Almost all the time, the news item tells you if you need to do something and what to do.  If not, it usually contains a link that explains what is going on and what to do.  Some, maybe most, are also targeted in a way that they only display IF they affect your system.  Example.  Something only affects KDE and you don't have anything KDE installed.  It won't display since it doesn't affect you.  If you do have KDE or part of KDE installed, then it shows up. > >> >> Also pay attention to any messages on the CLI when you run emerge about >> packages which are due to be removed from portage, as you will need >> to take >> care of these manually in your local or some external 3rd party overlay. > > > You mean, like get them out of my world file? > > >> >> >>>> ... >>>> >>>>>>     What do >>>>>> >>>>>> grep -r python3_6 /etc/portage >>>>> That showed that the only references are in package.use >>>> But what does it show. We need the output of commands, not some vague >>>> reference to them. I suspected there was something in package.use, >>>> but we >>>> need to know what. Those references should probably be removed but >>>> no one >>>> can say for sure without seeing them. >>> Oh sorry.  You mentioned >>> >>> PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_6" >>> >>> and I didn't connect that with USE variables.  Here there are (with >>> comments >>> removed) >> It isn't just USE flags for python-3.6 you may have set up yourself, >> but USE >> flags for any python version you have specified.  Under normal >> circumstances >> you would not need to specify these yourself and pegging python at a >> particular version is bound to cause warnings later on, when that python >> version has been deprecated and is no longer available in portage. >> >> >>> $ sed -n -e '/^\s*#/d' -e '/python3_6/p' /etc/portage/package.use/* >>> >>>> =dev-python/certifi-10001-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/setuptools_scm-4.1.2-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/requests-2.24.0-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/chardet-3.0.4-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/idna-2.10-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/urllib3-1.25.11 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/cryptography-3.2.1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/cffi-1.14.0-r3 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/pycparser-2.20-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/ply-3.11-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/PySocks-1.7.1-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/pyopenssl-19.1.0-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/setuptools-50.3.0 python_targets_python3_6 >>>> =dev-python/six-1.15.0-r1 python_targets_python3_6 >> Why had you set up these in your package.use? > > > Basically, whenever emerge tells me I need USE variables, I define them. > > It's not clear to me how I should know to override that, for example, to > say, oh that's not needed anymore. > > I use eix-test-obsolete to find most of those.  Keep in mind, there may be times when it says something is redundant when it isn't.  Example.  I run unstable KDE here.  I have all of KDE listed in package.keyword.  However, if all of KDE that is installed is stable, it says it is redundant and can be removed.  However, a week or so later, I'll need them again when the next unstable release hits the tree.  One has to think about what goes and what stays.  >> >> If you comment them out and re-run emerge are you getting any more >> warnings/ >> errors? > > > Yes, those are all gone. > > > . > Dale :-)  :-)