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To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <6582741.F9gJHCEsXr@dell_xps> From: Alan McKinnon Message-ID: <043db689-c3c2-9027-d7ac-689bad8847b6@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2017 12:27:46 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6582741.F9gJHCEsXr@dell_xps> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 7e3593f9-be67-4d39-b7ba-0d87fe2bdaba X-Archives-Hash: 98c8af76130d21cf42f19fd1fe631a07 On 09/12/2017 11:51, Mick wrote: > I've seen gnome-base/gnome-common pulled in on more than one systems, all of > which have USE="-gnome" set: > > # emerge -uaNDvt world > > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [nomerge ] kde-apps/kdebase-meta-17.08.3:5::gentoo > [nomerge ] kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.10.5:5::gentoo USE="bluetooth > display-manager handbook pam pulseaudio sddm wallpapers -grub -gtk - > networkmanager -plymouth -sdk" > [nomerge ] kde-plasma/powerdevil-5.10.5:5::gentoo USE="consolekit > handbook wireless -debug" > [nomerge ] kde-frameworks/solid-5.37.0:5/5.37::gentoo USE="nls - > debug -doc {-test}" > [ebuild U ] sys-fs/udisks-2.7.4:2::gentoo [2.1.8:2::gentoo] USE="acl > gptfdisk introspection nls%* -cryptsetup -debug (-elogind) -lvm% (-selinux) - > systemd" 1,257 KiB > [ebuild N ] sys-libs/libblockdev-2.14::gentoo USE="crypt -bcache - > dmraid -doc -kbd -lvm {-test}" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_5 -python3_4 - > python3_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_5 -python3_4 -python3_6" 268 KiB > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/volume_key-0.3.9::gentoo USE="{-test}" > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_5 -python3_4 -python3_6" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_5 -python3_4 -python3_6" 435 KiB > [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1:3::gentoo > USE="autoconf-archive" 153 KiB > [nomerge ] sys-libs/libblockdev-2.14::gentoo USE="crypt -bcache -dmraid > -doc -kbd -lvm {-test}" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_5 -python3_4 -python3_6" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_5 -python3_4 -python3_6" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libbytesize-1.2::gentoo USE="-doc {-test}" > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_5 -python2_7 -python3_4 -python3_6" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_5 -python3_4 -python3_6" 69 KiB > > Total: 5 packages (1 upgrade, 4 new), Size of downloads: 2,180 KiB > > All systems are on profile: default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop/plasma > > Why is gnome-base/gnome-common needed? > Because sys-fs/udisks:2 depends on it. It's NOT trying to install gnome, the package is gnome-common with this description: Description: Common files for development of Gnome packages The list of installed files are: $ equery files gnome-common * Searching for gnome-common ... * Contents of gnome-base/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1: /usr /usr/bin /usr/bin/gnome-autogen.sh /usr/share /usr/share/aclocal /usr/share/aclocal/gnome-code-coverage.m4 /usr/share/aclocal/gnome-common.m4 /usr/share/aclocal/gnome-compiler-flags.m4 /usr/share/doc /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1 /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1/ChangeLog /usr/share/doc/gnome-common-3.18.0-r1/README All they are is 4 small .m4 files to do useful stuff to let packages build, very much like a few needed includes. They just happen to be generically useful and just happen to be written by someone in the Gnome team, and just happen to have names starting with this sequence of letters: gee enn oh emm ee -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon@gmail.com