From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ghh0g-0005JM-Sa for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:34:07 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id kA86VZJZ000779; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:31:35 GMT Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kA86SLmu000453 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2006 06:28:23 GMT Received: from c-24-17-252-74.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([24.17.252.74] helo=daevid.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51) id 1Ghgv6-000DHp-99 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:28:20 -0500 Received: from locutus ([10.10.10.69]) by daevid.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.54) id 1Ghgv5-0003EH-Jq for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Nov 2006 22:28:19 -0800 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 24.17.252.74 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: DAE51D From: "Daevid Vincent" To: Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Mini Gentoo in VMWare Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 21:27:49 -0800 Message-ID: <010101c702f6$b32d0170$450a0a0a@locutus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AccBZVagkUzibHBnT7CYraK6jxy4kgBkI8Rg In-Reply-To: <9b1675090611052119i68691356s92670db202f9120f@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 8e1f0514-b78a-4869-89b4-36238752ed53 X-Archives-Hash: 6751bbfa110dceff2cf466861add34e8 I use a Gentoo VM for a lot of LAMP dev work, and I can tell you it's kind of painful to upgrade packages with all the compiling. VMWare is slower than normal to compile, mostly due to disk I/O. Since each HD is a big-ass file. A few optimizations I might suggest: Partition a dedicated physical hard drive into chunks and use VMWare's "raw" disk so you have real hardware/hard disks. I'd suggest a very fast SCSI drive for the best performance since you're running several VMs. Also, look into the VMWare server version which uses the raw iron a bit better as it's dedicated to running many VMs. I find that more RAM on VMWare has a point of deminishing returns. I have a VM that I dedicate 512MB of my 2GBs and honestly it feels slower than when I give it 128-256MB only. It may be a WinXP thing that it's not efficiently using the RAM right or something. > -----Original Message----- > From: Trenton Adams [mailto:trenton.d.adams@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 9:19 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mini Gentoo in VMWare > > Yes, VMWare is fit for the task, simply because I would be using it on > a windows machine. Unless there is something better for a windows > machine? > > Thanks for the hints. > > On 11/3/06, Harm Geerts wrote: > > On Friday 03 November 2006 06:43, Trenton Adams wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > Has anyone here played with minimalizing everything for > use in vmware? > > > > > > Basically what I want to do is create a series of VERY > tiny VMs that > > > are all independent of each other, which provide one service. For > > > instance, I might put apache on one VM, and tomcat on > another, and so > > > on. Obviously, I would want their memory usage to be absolutely > > > minimized, seeing that I would like to run them all on > one computer. > > > I would probably provide them 64M-128M of RAM each, for > their specific > > > service. Perhaps a little more if really required. > > > > > > Is there really anything that I should worry about? > Perhaps I should > > > just DO IT? > > > > Nick[1] made a post about minimizing Gentoo a while back. > > But that topic was mainly about the disk usage. > > I suppose you would benefit from a system that uses the -Os > flag to create > > small binairies. > > > > But do you think vmware is fit for such a task? > > vmware is a big strain on resources itself. > > You might want to have a look at xen[2] instead. > > > > [1] > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/160899/focus=160903 > > [2] http://www.xensource.com/xen/xen/index.html > > -- > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list