From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Rs4Ma-0006fh-Ax for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:26:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65B04E0898; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A45C6E0858 for ; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:25:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=adPjbGUt c=1 sm=0 a=xvUQ5II7JMRnhGkbsebX1A==:17 a=wFpE1xy6iC0A:10 a=6WvLBrxrMboA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=LfqMiUf45yUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=cYo96mpsAAAA:8 a=EDJTaRArTDPu-LYkXI8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=b2KW4AENQPQA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=aezgWBgZ7G2A-EuO:21 a=LJahEKUDItoaFhlB:21 a=xvUQ5II7JMRnhGkbsebX1A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 97.102.250.187 Received: from [97.102.250.187] ([97.102.250.187:51113] helo=basement.kutulu.org) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 5B/E4-15128-42F572F4; Tue, 31 Jan 2012 03:25:24 +0000 Received: from localhost (basement.kutulu.org [127.0.0.1]) by basement.kutulu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6336112007 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:25:23 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at kutulu.org Received: from basement.kutulu.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (basement.kutulu.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ieMr1-EiR9lD for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:25:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from PORPOISE (PORPOISE.kutulu.org [192.168.69.91]) by basement.kutulu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1667F112006 for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:25:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Mike Edenfield" To: References: <4F2546BC.3010608@gmail.com> <4F258AAF.9090504@gmail.com> <4F26939E.3030003@kutulu.org> <4F2696A7.40407@hadt.biz> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:25:19 -0500 Message-ID: <006901ccdfc7$f5c24fa0$e146eee0$@kutulu.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQLUyxLj54NABkQY9DZPM7h/dltZeQH4HfPRAkX/c8kC6iIxugJOlv0EAijC4BAC6VaEC5OhriIg Content-Language: en-us X-Archives-Salt: a404b730-d54e-4cd3-a983-46a7c7c1c302 X-Archives-Hash: da66bac5065552da6920170598639968 > From: James Broadhead [mailto:jamesbroadhead@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 8:15 AM =20 > On 30 January 2012 13:09, Michael Hampicke = wrote: > >> Technically, they did, it was just impossible for an OS to make it > >> actually work: > >> > >> http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/archive/2009/04/02/9528175.aspx =20 > Honestly, given that it's a single bit check per hardware change, it > doesn't seem like all that challenging of a feature. We could have had > autorun.inf viruses almost 5 years earlier! The problem, IIRC, is that the floppy bus has no way of identifying a = "hardware change" even happened, so there would be nothing to trigger = the hardware re-check. Of course you could "make it work" with all kinds of heuristics but most = of them involve getting the auto-insert check wrong at least once. That = means either spinning up the drive when it's empty ("Dear /.: Windows is = stupid! It keeps trying to read from my floppy drive when there's no = disk."), or failing to spin up when a disk is inserted and requiring = user intervention ("Dear /.: Windows is stupid! It used to know when I = put a disk in my floppy and now it stopped!").=20 By the time Windows 95 came along floppies were on the way out and = really not worth the hassle. Windows auto-mounts all drives on demand, = so it didn't really need to know when you put a disk in, and none of the = software that came on floppies had autorun setup. I'm kinda surprised = they even spent as much time as they did looking at it :)