[gentoo-user] RE: I'm not getting gentoo list emails anymore?

[gentoo-user] RE: I'm not getting gentoo list emails anymore?

[Daevid Vincent]

Something in definitely strange...

I turned off my Mailhop Outbound service and sent the mail directly via
exim:

I tried to subscribe to a list that I know I'm not already in (the osx one).

I turned off .procmailrc (no recopies and full logging)

daevid exim # grep gentoo /var/log/mail/current 
Dec 24 13:21:31 [exim] 2006-12-24 13:21:31 1Gyamg-0006aw-2F =>
gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp
H=lists.gentoo.org [140.105.134.102]
Dec 24 13:31:22 [exim] 2006-12-24 13:31:22 1GyawC-0006c2-K7 =>
gentoo-osx+subscribe@gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=mail.gentoo.org
[140.211.166.183] X=TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256
Dec 24 13:31:22 [exim] 2006-12-24 13:31:22 1GyawC-0006c2-Va =>
gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp
H=mail.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183] X=TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256

I'm running out of ideas. As you can see, NOTHING is coming back to my
server. I should at least see something in the log there with an <= arrow
from the gentoo.org server.

I get all other mail from several lists and for several different users on
this system.

daevid exim # ping gentoo.org
PING gentoo.org (204.74.99.100) 56(84) bytes of data.
--- gentoo.org ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4015ms

But its not unusual for someone to drop ping packets (I do it too for
security reasons)

Would the list admin please double check the mlmmj list tools and see if
there is some setting for my email address that says 'nomail' or 'suspended'
or something like that... Is my email even showing up in the list (or did my
unsubscribes go through). Does the list use any kind of RBL?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrea Barisani [mailto:lcars@gentoo.org] 
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 3:36 AM
> To: Daevid Vincent
> Cc: gentoo-user+owner@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: I'm not getting gentoo list emails anymore?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2006 at 02:45:13PM -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> > I had a power outage here in Seattle, WA since last 
> Thursday. Server is
> > finally online. I suspect your mail server suspended or 
> unsubscribed me due
> > to bounces.
> > 
> > However, how can I turn it back on? I tried to send messages to 
> > 
> > 	gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org
> > 
> > Also tried
> > 
> > 	gentoo-user+help@gentoo.org
> > 
> > And I don't get any emails at all back.
> > 
> > Then I tried it from my work account and I do get a 
> 'confirmation' email?!
> > 
> > Are you doing some kind of blocking or checking (I hope 
> not) that my email
> > address comes from some certain domain or something? I run 
> a gentoo server
> > on my cable modem at home and use DynDNS Outbound Mail 
> relay (to prevent
> > this very kind of thing, where certain domains like AOL 
> block mail from
> > dynamic IPs)
> >
> 
> We don't do any kind of specific filtering on our side, so 
> this is not a
> problem on our end. You might want to wait a few days and see if this
> changes, it might be just a connectivity issue.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> > I have been monitoring my /var/log/mail/current and don't 
> see any gentoo
> > emails coming in. As a sanity check, I even turned off my 
> .procmailrc file
> > (the whole thing!) and still nada.
> > 
> > daevid mail # grep gentoo *
> > current:Dec 22 14:17:47 [exim] 2006-12-22 14:17:47 
> 1Gxsi2-0002UD-6L =>
> > gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org R=send_to_gateway T=outbound_smtp
> > H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171] X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > log-2006-12-21-11:12:52:Dec 21 02:11:33 [exim] 2006-12-21 02:11:33
> > 1GxKtg-0005RB-5D => gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org R=send_to_gateway
> > T=outbound_smtp H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]
> > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > log-2006-12-22-01:05:18:Dec 21 12:14:04 [exim] 2006-12-21 12:14:04
> > 1GxUIm-0000lT-CG <= 
> gentoo-user+bounces-56960-daevid=daevid.com@gentoo.org
> > H=lists.gentoo.org (robin.gentoo.org) [140.105.134.102] 
> P=esmtp S=4261
> > id=20061221195142.GO21525@woodpecker.gentoo.org
> > log-2006-12-22-01:05:18:Dec 21 12:19:04 [exim] 2006-12-21 
> 12:19:04 SMTP
> > command timeout on connection from lists.gentoo.org 
> (robin.gentoo.org)
> > [140.105.134.102]
> > log-2006-12-22-09:56:01:Dec 21 22:15:41 [exim] 2006-12-21 22:15:41
> > 1Gxdgw-0003Ql-GT => gentoo-user+subscribe@gentoo.org 
> R=send_to_gateway
> > T=outbound_smtp H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]
> > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > log-2006-12-22-09:56:01:Dec 21 22:15:41 [exim] 2006-12-21 22:15:41
> > 1Gxdgx-0003Ql-22 => gentoo-announce+subscribe@gentoo.org 
> R=send_to_gateway
> > T=outbound_smtp H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]
> > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > log-2006-12-22-09:56:01:Dec 21 22:16:26 [exim] 2006-12-21 22:16:26
> > 1Gxdhh-0003RB-2s => gentoo-gwn+subscribe@gentoo.org 
> R=send_to_gateway
> > T=outbound_smtp H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]
> > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > log-2006-12-22-09:56:01:Dec 21 22:16:26 [exim] 2006-12-21 22:16:26
> > 1Gxdhh-0003RB-Dw => gentoo-laptop+subscribe@gentoo.org 
> R=send_to_gateway
> > T=outbound_smtp H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]
> > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > log-2006-12-22-09:56:01:Dec 21 22:17:07 [exim] 2006-12-21 22:17:07
> > 1GxdiG-0003RM-RR => gentoo-server+subscribe@gentoo.org 
> R=send_to_gateway
> > T=outbound_smtp H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]
> > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > log-2006-12-22-09:56:01:Dec 21 23:27:02 [exim] 2006-12-21 23:27:02
> > 1Gxeo0-0005Qb-2Z => gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org R=send_to_gateway
> > T=outbound_smtp H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]
> > X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
> > 
> > I don't know what else to do, and the timing couldn't be 
> worse, as my
> > wlan0/hostap has stopped working at home and I need help fixing it!
> > 
> > I wish you had a mailman like web front end :(
> > 
> > These are the lists I was on and would like to be reinstated again:
> > 
> > gentoo-user
> > gentoo-announce
> > gentoo-laptop
> > gentoo-gwn
> > gentoo-desktop
> > gentoo-admin
> > gentoo-server
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > ??5?? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> -- 
> Andrea Barisani <lcars@gentoo.org>                            .*.
> Gentoo Linux Infrastructure Developer                          V
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> 

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[gentoo-user] RE: I'm not getting gentoo list emails anymore?

[Daevid Vincent]

 
> Would the list admin please double check the mlmmj list administration
tools 
> and see if there is some setting for my email address that 
> says 'nomail' or 'suspended' or something like that... Is my 
> email even showing up in the list (or did my unsubscribes go 
> through). Does the list use any kind of RBL?

I looked at the mlmmj "site" (and that is an extremely generous term for
this page http://mlmmj.mmj.dk/), and it had nothing useful in terms of
commands I could try -- since 'help' doesn't even respond.

Well, according to http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/176367
my last post just went through, so clearly my unsubscribe commands aren't
even being received/executed either.

Just to verify, I have tried both: 
"gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org" and
"gentoo-user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org"
(does it matter if I use "list." or not?)

(And to clarify, I don't wish to actually unsubscribe, I'm merely trying to
get mlmmj to reply back to me or clear my 'bits' in case something was
toggled to not send me mail)

Could the list admin check the /var/log/mail/* logs and look for
'daevid@daevid.com' and see if there are any error messages or anything?
Something that might shed some light as to what's happening here.

This is very bizarre that I can post to the list a normal email, but not a
command one, and not receive back anything. It really feels like something
specific to my actual email address and mlmmj. I tried to subscribe via my
work account (which I only use for testing as a backup email for situations
like this) and I got a response instantly to confirm.

*sigh*

I'm hoping for a Christmas miracle here...

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[gentoo-user] RE: I'm not getting gentoo list emails anymore?

[Daevid Vincent]

I had a bit of a debugging brainstorm this morning... I tried to subscribe
from one of the virtual hosts on my server (I protected the name below to
avoid spam). That "worked". And by "work", I mean, that the mlmmj list sent
me back an email. So this tells me it is NOT my server configuration or IP
address. It is NOT something I am doing wrong (command or what have you). It
is most definitely something with the mlmmj list software and my particular
daevid@daevid.com address.

Dec 27 10:25:50 [exim] 2006-12-27 10:25:50 1GzdTK-00085y-Dh <=
daevid@MYVIRTUALHOST.com H=cpe-72-225-4-189.rochester.res.rr.com (loki)
[72.225.4.189] P=esmtpsa X=TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128 A=login:daevid S=662
id=001601c729e4$730099d0$5901cd70$@com
Dec 27 10:25:52 [exim] 2006-12-27 10:25:52 1GzdTK-00085y-Dh =>
gentoo-users+subscribe@gentoo.org R=send_to_gateway T=outbound_smtp
H=outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171] X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256
Dec 27 10:25:52 [exim] 2006-12-27 10:25:52 1GzdTK-00085y-Dh Completed

Dec 27 10:26:03 [exim] 2006-12-27 10:26:03 1GzdTX-00086X-9l <= <>
H=smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183] P=esmtps X=TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256 S=4125
id=20061227182602.59B83648EA@smtp.gentoo.org
Dec 27 10:26:03 [exim] 2006-12-27 10:26:03 1GzdTX-00086X-9l =>
|/usr/bin/procmail (daevid@daevid.com) <daevid@MYVIRTUALHOST.com>
R=userforward T=address_pipe
Dec 27 10:26:03 [exim] 2006-12-27 10:26:03 1GzdTX-00086X-9l Completed

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:daevid@daevid.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 2:06 PM
> To: gentoo-user@gentoo.org
> Cc: gentoo-user+owner@lists.gentoo.org; 'Andrea Barisani'
> Subject: RE: I'm not getting gentoo list emails anymore?
> 
> 
> > Would the list admin please double check the mlmmj list
> administration tools
> > and see if there is some setting for my email address that
> > says 'nomail' or 'suspended' or something like that... Is my
> > email even showing up in the list (or did my unsubscribes go
> > through). Does the list use any kind of RBL?
> 
> I looked at the mlmmj "site" (and that is an extremely generous term
> for this page http://mlmmj.mmj.dk/), and it had nothing useful in terms
> of commands I could try -- since 'help' doesn't even respond.
> 
> Well, according to
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/176367 my last post
> just went through, so clearly my unsubscribe commands aren't even being
> received/executed either.
> 
> Just to verify, I have tried both:
> "gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org" and "gentoo-
> user+unsubscribe@gentoo.org"
> (does it matter if I use "list." or not?)
> 
> (And to clarify, I don't wish to actually unsubscribe, I'm merely
> trying to get mlmmj to reply back to me or clear my 'bits' in case
> something was toggled to not send me mail)
> 
> Could the list admin check the /var/log/mail/* logs and look for
> 'daevid@daevid.com' and see if there are any error messages or
> anything? Something that might shed some light as to what's happening
> here.
> 
> This is very bizarre that I can post to the list a normal email, but
> not a command one, and not receive back anything. It really feels like
> something specific to my actual email address and mlmmj. I tried to
> subscribe via my work account (which I only use for testing as a backup
> email for situations like this) and I got a response instantly to
> confirm.
> 
> *sigh*
> 
> I'm hoping for a Christmas miracle here...

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