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From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions.
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2018 15:55:00 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00229f0e-cce0-947c-407c-ea76a8914d97@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ANHXW2EY.Z22KHV7W.AG334LLL@6TREYRFX.BSGMKNTL.ZZR2UY5T>

Jack wrote:
> On 2018.12.06 15:58, Dale wrote:
> [snip...]
>> My concern is this tho.  I have my old CPU still installed and
>> everything is compiled based on that.  So, I'm stable with the old
>> CPU.  However, when I shutdown, take out the old CPU and install the
>> new one, I'm concerned it may not boot at all because of the change
>> or may boot but be very unstable.  I recall years ago being able to
>> set up the flags in such a way that it can run on virtually any CPU
>> but it's been a long time ago and I don't know if it is needed or
>> not.  My hope was, someone did a very similar upgrade and can say for
>> sure if it works or if I need to do things before changing the CPUs
>> to make sure I can boot and be stable.  If I can just get a stable
>> console, I can do a emerge -e world and get the OS inline with the
>> CPU.  I'm just concerned whether I will have that or not. 
>>
> [snip...]
>>
>> I just don't want to swap CPUs only to find out I've got to swap back
>> because my system won't boot at all. Heck, it may even fail to load
>> the kernel itself for all I know. 
> I once made the mistake of getting a whole new (used...) PC and just
> moved the HDD from the old one to the new, without thinking about any
> of this.  Of course it wouldn't boot at all, because I was switching
> from an AMD to an Intel CPU and had set all flags accordingly in the
> old box.  In your case, as long as you include any flags necessary for
> the new CPU, and remove any flags for features the new CPU does not
> have, you should be good.  (I know that sounds simple, but does ignore
> how you find that info.)  Given your two CPUs are relatively close
> (unless I misread something) there should be little if anything
> critical to change.
>
> However, if you have a live DVD, (or on USB stick) that will always
> boot, and you can then do a chroot and reset flags and start
> recompiling whatever might fail.   I actually think the kernel IS the
> likely failure if any, but once that boots, you should be good to
> recompile whatever fails.  (Yes, toolchain stuff might be an issue,
> but again, just boot back to the live DVD.)  You may need to reboot a
> few times, but you won't need to swap the old CPU back in.
>
> Jack
>

I've tried that too.  Heck, sometimes that doesn't work even with
windoze.   My concerns are sort of along those lines tho.  I don't have
and can't find the current flags for the new CPU so I don't know what to
do flag wise.  I'm not sure that there is even a common setting but
suspect there is.  If I can get the kernel to boot and login at a
console, even with no X, I can rebuild from there, provided everything
works toolchain wise. 

I guess this is a good time to make sure my sysrescue and other tools
work.  That slipped my mind completely.  Thanks for the reminder.  Hmmm,
I need to check on the current mount and chroot process for this too. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-06 21:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-06  9:27 [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions Dale
2018-12-06 10:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-06 15:17   ` Dale
2018-12-06 16:51   ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-06 18:36 ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-06 20:58   ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:24     ` Jack
2018-12-06 21:55       ` Dale [this message]
2018-12-07  1:06     ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-07  1:17       ` Dale
2018-12-07  5:10         ` Dale
2018-12-07  6:22           ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  7:30             ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:49               ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2018-12-07 23:47               ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07 23:59                 ` Dale
2018-12-09 18:23                 ` Taiidan
2018-12-09 18:57                   ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-09 22:41                     ` Dale
2018-12-10 21:33                     ` Taiidan
2018-12-10 22:14                       ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 22:54                         ` Dale
2018-12-11  2:00                           ` Taiidan
2018-12-11  8:49                             ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-11  9:23                               ` Mick
2018-12-11 10:48                               ` Dale
2018-12-11 15:14                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-11 22:46                               ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 23:56                                 ` Dale
2018-12-12  2:15                                   ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 10:20                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2018-12-11 15:03                             ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-07  8:47         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2018-12-07  8:58           ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 21:45   ` Dale
2018-12-06 22:22     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 23:23       ` Dale
2018-12-06 23:40         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07  0:19           ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:01             ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-07 12:41               ` Dale
2018-12-07 16:51                 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  1:01                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  2:51                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  4:39                       ` Dale
2018-12-08  5:33                       ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:45                         ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:00                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08  6:28                           ` David Haller
2018-12-08  4:23                 ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:35                   ` Dale
2018-12-08  6:06                     ` David Haller
2018-12-08  5:38                   ` David Haller
2018-12-08  9:40                     ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08  9:50                       ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-06 21:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Taylor
2018-12-09 22:45   ` Dale
2018-12-10  1:35     ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  2:38       ` Dale
2018-12-10  3:37         ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10  9:27         ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 16:00           ` Dale
2018-12-08 17:49 ` Alexander Puchmayr
2018-12-08 18:23   ` Dale
2018-12-08 19:09     ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-08 20:48       ` Dale
2018-12-11 10:41 ` Dale
2018-12-22 23:58 ` Dale

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