From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IfUXY-0005Vm-3Y for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:55:28 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with SMTP id l9A5iVia031684; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:44:31 GMT Received: from outbound.mailhop.org (outbound.mailhop.org [63.208.196.171]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.1/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l9A5e9YC026677 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 05:40:09 GMT Received: from c-67-168-161-74.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([67.168.161.74] helo=daevid.com) by outbound.mailhop.org with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IfUIi-000JNX-Ir for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 01:40:08 -0400 Received: from locutus ([10.10.10.69]) by daevid.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1IfUId-0003ZX-Pm for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 22:40:05 -0700 X-Mail-Handler: MailHop Outbound by DynDNS X-Originating-IP: 67.168.161.74 X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@dyndns.com (see http://www.mailhop.org/outbound/abuse.html for abuse reporting information) X-MHO-User: U2FsdGVkX19BkSNq32xbwLkZk3YGq3TZ From: "Daevid Vincent" To: References: <49bf44f10609072007w4c110d77je1152ea578c7e708@mail.gmail.com> <45010AC8.5080807@home.se> <7573e9640609080022g1860b67flc2cfd304ad5e58e0@mail.gmail.com> <7573e9640609081512o72b88fc8k54d7fb716d245813@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:39:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000f01c80b00$05691f20$450a0a0a@locutus> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcbTl33BWJm7SutqTv2EN1U5uBG17k3ZutaA In-Reply-To: <7573e9640609081512o72b88fc8k54d7fb716d245813@mail.gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 2556fd72-8cea-4a38-9398-bbf39c7c3a7c X-Archives-Hash: 70b735b77e802e9c01bf28e7ac408246 I've held off on doing this gcc update as I'm on an old P4 2Ghz notebook with 1G RAM (Dell i8200). Things are generally working okay (as well as any linux/gentoo system can be I guess). What is the compelling reason to update if any? I've masked out this new GCC for many months and have had no "issues" thus far that I know of. I absolutely dread dicking with this for days and days, fixing things that currently work, merging all the /etc/ files with the "new" ones for the same packages that will be simply re-compiled with the new GCC. So my questions are: [a] what compelling reason is there to upgrade (other than "you should b/c it's stable") [b] is it just better to d/l a new Gentoo .iso install that has all this crap already, copy over my world file or whatever and have it install the missing packages (apache, php, mysql, kde, gnome, etc) [c] if I do that method, I would save the hassle of KDE and Gnome right? As they come as binaries already? [d] can I just "not fix if it aint broke" and keep with what I have? Or is this just a question of time before I start hitting walls of new packages I can't use. > -----Original Message----- > From: richard.j.fish@gmail.com > [mailto:richard.j.fish@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Richard Fish > Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 3:13 PM > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Remerge the system with gcc-4.1? > > On 9/8/06, Peter wrote: > > I could be entirely wrong on this, but I upgraded from > 3.4.6 to 4.1.1 and > > did not re-emerge system or world. > > > > Actually, with all due respect, it is unnecessary to > recompile anything > > other than the programs which depend on libstdc++. > > Yeah, I thought this too. And in fact, I also did a revdep-rebuild > for the 4.1 upgrade and did not experience any problems between then > and the time I eventually did an emerge -e world. But check the > archives of this list from around the time when gcc-4.1 hit ~arch, and > you will see that that did *not* work for everybody. We learned the > hard way that the safe route is emerge -e world. > > And it isn't just my say-so...the gentoo devs insist ([1] & [2]) that > the emerge -e world is the only safe option. They don't say these > things because they want users to waste a bunch of time... > > [1] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-493662.html > [2] http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3541436.html#3541436 > > -Richard > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list