Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

[Scott Llewellyn]

I believe that my ISP has port 25 closed. I have it opened externally in my
firewall and it is still showing as being closed to the internet.  Could
this have an effect on recieving mail? and if so, how should I fix that?

Thanks

Scott Llewellyn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Llewellyn" <mirv@ns.sympatico.ca>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.


> alright, this is what I got form   dig www.xploited.ca MX
>
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> www.xploited.ca MX
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.xploited.ca.  IN MX
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> xploited.ca.  7171 IN SOA ns16.zoneedit.com. soacontact.zoneedit.com.
> 1109230065 14400 7200 950400 7200
>
> ;; Query time: 62 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:48:32 2005
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 97
>
>
>
> and here it is just  dig www.xploited.ca
>
>
> ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> www.xploited.ca
> ;; global options:  printcmd
> ;; Got answer:
> ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
> ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1
>
> ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> ;www.xploited.ca.  IN A
>
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> www.xploited.ca. 300 IN A 142.177.224.149
>
> ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns13.zoneedit.com.
> xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns16.zoneedit.com.
>
> ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> ns16.zoneedit.com. 649 IN A 216.110.187.226
>
> ;; Query time: 140 msec
> ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:49:54 2005
> ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 115
>
>
> Let me know what you think!!
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Scott
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <michael@michaelshiloh.com>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
> >
> > > I recently purchsed my own domain and have been meaning to set up my
own
> > > person email servers.  I use zoneedit for my dns, and from what I
> understand
> > > you can set up mail through them as well.
> > >
> > > i decided to try to set it up today and i have almost finished, but im
> > > having problem with one thing. I followed the Home Email system
tutorial
> on
> > > gentoo-wiki.com and I've managed to get outgoing email working fine.
I
> can
> > > send to  any address from user@mydomain.ca and all the headers do seem
> > > proper. What I can't do is send back to that email address from other
> email
> > > address, eg a hotmail account.  It doesn't bounce back, it just is
never
> > > recieved.
> > >
> > > I can connect to the server over imap and smtp on my internal network
as
> > > well.   I do have a firewall in front and I have not opened any email
> ports
> > > (25 and imaps), but I tried sending from one internal user to another,
> and
> > > that didn't work either.  As well, there are no logs of blocked
requests
> on
> > > thoes ports.
> > >
> > > I'm not very experience with this accpect of networking. I've set up
web
> > > servers before, but never and email server and I don't even know where
> to
> > > look for problems.
> > >
> > >
> > > If anyone requires any config information please let me know, but I
did
> > > follow that tutorial very closly.
> > >
> > >
> > > I did not setup fetchmail, but from what I could tell that was only
user
> for
> > > recieving emails from external servers, eg your isps email.
> >
> > When I did this, I found setting up my mx records very tricky. Can you
> > post the output from dig? It might point out suspicious settings.
> >
> > Michael
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> >
>
> --
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Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

[W.Kenworthy]

email them and ask :)

My ISP has a web page (toolbox) that allows port blocking to be turned
off or on - defaults to on to protect new accounts, but allows users to
turn it off (25, 80, 139 & 445 - only all on or off unfortunately) as
needed.

BillK


On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 02:07 -0300, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
> I believe that my ISP has port 25 closed. I have it opened externally in my
> firewall and it is still showing as being closed to the internet.  Could
> this have an effect on recieving mail? and if so, how should I fix that?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Scott Llewellyn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Llewellyn" <mirv@ns.sympatico.ca>
> To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.
> 
> 
> > alright, this is what I got form   dig www.xploited.ca MX
> >
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> www.xploited.ca MX
> > ;; global options:  printcmd
> > ;; Got answer:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;www.xploited.ca.  IN MX
> >
> > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > xploited.ca.  7171 IN SOA ns16.zoneedit.com. soacontact.zoneedit.com.
> > 1109230065 14400 7200 950400 7200
> >
> > ;; Query time: 62 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> > ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:48:32 2005
> > ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 97
> >
> >
> >
> > and here it is just  dig www.xploited.ca
> >
> >
> > ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> www.xploited.ca
> > ;; global options:  printcmd
> > ;; Got answer:
> > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
> > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1
> >
> > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > ;www.xploited.ca.  IN A
> >
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > www.xploited.ca. 300 IN A 142.177.224.149
> >
> > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns13.zoneedit.com.
> > xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns16.zoneedit.com.
> >
> > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > ns16.zoneedit.com. 649 IN A 216.110.187.226
> >
> > ;; Query time: 140 msec
> > ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> > ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:49:54 2005
> > ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 115
> >
> >
> > Let me know what you think!!
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Scott
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <michael@michaelshiloh.com>
> > To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
> > >
> > > > I recently purchsed my own domain and have been meaning to set up my
> own
> > > > person email servers.  I use zoneedit for my dns, and from what I
> > understand
> > > > you can set up mail through them as well.
> > > >
> > > > i decided to try to set it up today and i have almost finished, but im
> > > > having problem with one thing. I followed the Home Email system
> tutorial
> > on
> > > > gentoo-wiki.com and I've managed to get outgoing email working fine.
> I
> > can
> > > > send to  any address from user@mydomain.ca and all the headers do seem
> > > > proper. What I can't do is send back to that email address from other
> > email
> > > > address, eg a hotmail account.  It doesn't bounce back, it just is
> never
> > > > recieved.
> > > >
> > > > I can connect to the server over imap and smtp on my internal network
> as
> > > > well.   I do have a firewall in front and I have not opened any email
> > ports
> > > > (25 and imaps), but I tried sending from one internal user to another,
> > and
> > > > that didn't work either.  As well, there are no logs of blocked
> requests
> > on
> > > > thoes ports.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not very experience with this accpect of networking. I've set up
> web
> > > > servers before, but never and email server and I don't even know where
> > to
> > > > look for problems.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > If anyone requires any config information please let me know, but I
> did
> > > > follow that tutorial very closly.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did not setup fetchmail, but from what I could tell that was only
> user
> > for
> > > > recieving emails from external servers, eg your isps email.
> > >
> > > When I did this, I found setting up my mx records very tricky. Can you
> > > post the output from dig? It might point out suspicious settings.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > > --
> > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> >
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

[Scott Llewellyn]

I plan on calling them. Unfortantly there is no one there at 4 am!  I was
just curious it port 25 being closed would be the reason I couldn't recieve
email in the first place.

Scott
----- Original Message -----
From: "W.Kenworthy" <billk@iinet.net.au>
To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.


> email them and ask :)
>
> My ISP has a web page (toolbox) that allows port blocking to be turned
> off or on - defaults to on to protect new accounts, but allows users to
> turn it off (25, 80, 139 & 445 - only all on or off unfortunately) as
> needed.
>
> BillK
>
>
> On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 02:07 -0300, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
> > I believe that my ISP has port 25 closed. I have it opened externally in
my
> > firewall and it is still showing as being closed to the internet.  Could
> > this have an effect on recieving mail? and if so, how should I fix that?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Scott Llewellyn
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Scott Llewellyn" <mirv@ns.sympatico.ca>
> > To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.
> >
> >
> > > alright, this is what I got form   dig www.xploited.ca MX
> > >
> > >
> > > ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> www.xploited.ca MX
> > > ;; global options:  printcmd
> > > ;; Got answer:
> > > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
> > > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
> > >
> > > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > > ;www.xploited.ca.  IN MX
> > >
> > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > > xploited.ca.  7171 IN SOA ns16.zoneedit.com. soacontact.zoneedit.com.
> > > 1109230065 14400 7200 950400 7200
> > >
> > > ;; Query time: 62 msec
> > > ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> > > ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:48:32 2005
> > > ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 97
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > and here it is just  dig www.xploited.ca
> > >
> > >
> > > ; <<>> DiG 9.2.3 <<>> www.xploited.ca
> > > ;; global options:  printcmd
> > > ;; Got answer:
> > > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 41
> > > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 1
> > >
> > > ;; QUESTION SECTION:
> > > ;www.xploited.ca.  IN A
> > >
> > > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > > www.xploited.ca. 300 IN A 142.177.224.149
> > >
> > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
> > > xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns13.zoneedit.com.
> > > xploited.ca.  3701 IN NS ns16.zoneedit.com.
> > >
> > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
> > > ns16.zoneedit.com. 649 IN A 216.110.187.226
> > >
> > > ;; Query time: 140 msec
> > > ;; SERVER: 192.168.1.1#53(192.168.1.1)
> > > ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 05 21:49:54 2005
> > > ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 115
> > >
> > >
> > > Let me know what you think!!
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Scott
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <michael@michaelshiloh.com>
> > > To: <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:23 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 5 Jul 2005, Scott Llewellyn wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I recently purchsed my own domain and have been meaning to set up
my
> > own
> > > > > person email servers.  I use zoneedit for my dns, and from what I
> > > understand
> > > > > you can set up mail through them as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > i decided to try to set it up today and i have almost finished,
but im
> > > > > having problem with one thing. I followed the Home Email system
> > tutorial
> > > on
> > > > > gentoo-wiki.com and I've managed to get outgoing email working
fine.
> > I
> > > can
> > > > > send to  any address from user@mydomain.ca and all the headers do
seem
> > > > > proper. What I can't do is send back to that email address from
other
> > > email
> > > > > address, eg a hotmail account.  It doesn't bounce back, it just is
> > never
> > > > > recieved.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can connect to the server over imap and smtp on my internal
network
> > as
> > > > > well.   I do have a firewall in front and I have not opened any
email
> > > ports
> > > > > (25 and imaps), but I tried sending from one internal user to
another,
> > > and
> > > > > that didn't work either.  As well, there are no logs of blocked
> > requests
> > > on
> > > > > thoes ports.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not very experience with this accpect of networking. I've set
up
> > web
> > > > > servers before, but never and email server and I don't even know
where
> > > to
> > > > > look for problems.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone requires any config information please let me know, but
I
> > did
> > > > > follow that tutorial very closly.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I did not setup fetchmail, but from what I could tell that was
only
> > user
> > > for
> > > > > recieving emails from external servers, eg your isps email.
> > > >
> > > > When I did this, I found setting up my mx records very tricky. Can
you
> > > > post the output from dig? It might point out suspicious settings.
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > > --
> > > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
> > >
> >
>
> --
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>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

[A. Khattri]

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, Scott Llewellyn wrote:

> I plan on calling them. Unfortantly there is no one there at 4 am!  I was
> just curious it port 25 being closed would be the reason I couldn't recieve
> email in the first place.

SMTP uses port 25 so a block would indeed affect incoming email.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Home mail server problems.

[Mark Knecht]

On 7/6/05, Scott Llewellyn <mirv@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I plan on calling them. Unfortantly there is no one there at 4 am!  I was
> just curious it port 25 being closed would be the reason I couldn't recieve
> email in the first place.
> 
> Scott

Scott,
   I didn't have a chance to read this thread but I'd be careful about
calling them if you are on any form of a home-oriented service
network. Most of the home ones, mine being Comcast for instance, have
specific clauses about two things:

1) You are not allowed to register their IP address with any domain service.
2) You are not allowed to run any 'servers' that are accessible from
the general Internet.

To run a mail server I believe that it would be typical to break both
of those clauses. I know one individual who claims he had his account
shut down for apparently even asking questions related to this topic.
I don't have any way to know if that's really true but he still grips
about it over beer. (Of course we gripe about many things. Yada yada
yada...) ;-)

   If none of this applies to your specific ISP then I apologize for
using bandwidth.

With best regards,
Mark

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