From: Caveman Al Toraboran <toraboracaveman@protonmail.com>
To: "gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org" <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Thu, 07 May 2020 04:26:14 +0000 [thread overview]
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On Thursday, May 7, 2020 6:35 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:14 PM Caveman Al Toraboran
> toraboracaveman@protonmail.com wrote:
>
> > are you referring to python's dependence on expat
> > and glibc?
>
> More like bash's dependence. Well, and in the case of glibc just
> about everything. When those break you're basically stuck recovering
> from a rescue disk.
or have sash somewhere around?
> Fortunately we haven't had glibc/gcc break ABI in quite a while, and
> preserved-rebuild covers a lot of the other issues.
>
> In any case, if you have a solution other than statically building
> half the system I'm sure patches will be welcome. FWIW Gentoo is
> about as hassle-free to use as it has ever been. It isn't debian
> stable, and it is unlikely to ever be that way...
why not? surely not as a 1st step, but it's not
like 50% of the system apps are sacred or
anything.
imo right approach is this:
1. make portage statically linked. enjoy the
removed python inconveniences.
2. if the bottleneck of inconvenience becomes
bash's use glibc (a great milestone to
celebrate btw), then we see how to fix that.
3. a component at a time, we eventually approach
linux utopia.
``step (1) is not a utopia yet'' is no excuse to
not start the journey of removing inconveniences.
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