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micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dR6R9zMLbFyGAqC61sP7tV5VBtdROGWuQ" X-Archives-Salt: e355b7ca-fa17-46b1-8625-9f94760a945e X-Archives-Hash: c829bcef36623d7509355f6aa50f3ae0 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dR6R9zMLbFyGAqC61sP7tV5VBtdROGWuQ Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="VdtqqsrOqYTphnRbDlwsyGkmDqRdBkcxA"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ren=c3=a9_Neumaier?= To: gentoo-user-de@lists.gentoo.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user-de] Heftige Plasma Probleme References: <1622103.npc921J26q@franks> <8b7a303a-fcc7-6dd6-aa53-08348327bfe8@mailbox.org> <4461983.TxfT9t9UzD@franks> In-Reply-To: <4461983.TxfT9t9UzD@franks> --VdtqqsrOqYTphnRbDlwsyGkmDqRdBkcxA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 09.03.19 09:00, Frank Noack wrote: > Ich denke der Hund liegt im Problem mit der Plasmashell begraben. Versu= che ich=20 > die zu starten st=C3=BCrzt sie ab, vermutlich (auch) weil sie den lauf= enden=20 > kactivitymanagerd nicht findet. Das ganze w=C3=A4re mir nicht aufgefall= en wenn nicht=20 > der Zweituser versagt h=C3=A4tte. Vielleicht sollte ich das System mal = auf stable- > KDE downgraden. In letzter Zeit waren ja ein paar KDE Updates dabei. Od= er hat=20 > jemand ebenfalls ein kdeframwork/plasma System auf dem letzten Stand vo= n=20 > unstable und kann best=C3=A4tigen dass ein frisch angelegter User saube= r l=C3=A4uft? Ich fasse noch einmal zusammen: * Bestand User 'frank' - Ok * Bestand User 'tine' - Fehler * Neu User - Fehler Bedeutet doch das vom Prinzip her die Installation funktioniert. Die User unterscheiden sich wom=C3=B6glich jedoch in der Konfiguration. Nachdem 'tine' (bestand config) und 'neue User' nicht korrekt starten k=C3=B6nnte... =2E.. via /etc/skel/ eine Fehl/Alt Konfiguration verteilt werden. oder =2E.. der Nutzer 'frank' auf eine bestimmte Einstellung verzichtet haben die in der default Konfiguration jedoch zum Fehler f=C3=BChrt. Gut m=C3=B6glich das dieser Fehler (X) nur im unstable auftritt und ein Downgrade die einfachste Variante darstellt. Alternativ w=C3=BCrde ich mir sehr genau die Differenz der Benutzerspezifischen KDE settings (~/.config/...) ansehen und versuchen den Fehler einzukreisen. Weil das Stichwort update viel: K=C3=BCrzlich gab es auch den Wechsel zu gcc-8. Vor einem downgrade k=C3=B6= nnte auch ein Neubau mit gcc-8 einen Versuch Wert sein. Ganz daran glauben m=C3=B6chte ich jedoch nicht - denn imho m=C3=BCsste b= ei solch einem Problem auch Nutzer 'frank' im dunkeln stehen. 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