Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Corey Shields]

On Saturday 05 November 2005 10:22 am, Deedra Waters wrote:
> From the past emails, it seems as though the general consensis with the
> exception of 2 people is that everyone seems to like and is ready to go
> with what the lawyers and corey and kurt put together.
>
> The next step i believe is to present it to the devs. Does anyone have
> any problems with my going ahead with this to keep things moving?

We need to inform our counsel that we are ready to present it to the devs.  
The one who drafted the document is willing to be involved in talks with the 
devs personally rather than us play telephone between him and the dev 
community.  This means he'll need to be in on the mailing list.  And, 
speaking of said list, discussions on the copyright proposal will need to 
remain PRIVATE at the requirement of our counsel until they are finalized to 
protect our status with our legal counsel.  This means no blog ranting or 
cross-posting of discussions.  I believe when we were discussing this with 
them the idea that was brought up between Kurt and I was to create a new 
mailing list for these discussions.  Anyone who violates the privacy of the 
discussion faces immediate suspension (and there will be people who do this.  
sucks to be them.)

If we want to get this ball rolling that's great.

Cheers,

-C
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[gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Deedra Waters]

>From the past emails, it seems as though the general consensis with the
exception of 2 people is that everyone seems to like and is ready to go
with what the lawyers and corey and kurt put together.

The next step i believe is to present it to the devs. Does anyone have
any problems with my going ahead with this to keep things moving?


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Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Sven Vermeulen]

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On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 12:22:10PM -0600, Deedra Waters wrote:
> The next step i believe is to present it to the devs. Does anyone have
> any problems with my going ahead with this to keep things moving?

Nope. It'll certainly be a hot topic though - I'll try to defend it as much
as possible. 

Wkr,
      Sven Vermeulen

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Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Grant Goodyear]

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Deedra Waters wrote: [Sat Nov 05 2005, 12:22:10PM CST]
> The next step i believe is to present it to the devs. Does anyone have
> any problems with my going ahead with this to keep things moving?

I'm certainly all for pushing it out to our devs.

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Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Daniel Ostrow]

On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 14:51 -0600, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> Deedra Waters wrote: [Sat Nov 05 2005, 12:22:10PM CST]
> > The next step i believe is to present it to the devs. Does anyone have
> > any problems with my going ahead with this to keep things moving?
> 
> I'm certainly all for pushing it out to our devs.

I agree, we've all said all we have to say. Now it has to be up to the
community to accept, reject or modify it. I believe we have come up with
the best solution we can, the only thing that is going to be difficult
is convincing the community of the need for it (that and the fact that
the document lacks any sinister nature).

Is there any way that we can get it posted to -core coming from the
trustees@ address...I think it would be far better if it was clear that
the document was coming from the trustees as a whole and not just one
individual.

--Dan

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Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Deedra Waters]

I completely and utterly agree.

Kurt?
On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Daniel Ostrow wrote:

> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:01:08 -0500
> From: Daniel Ostrow <dostrow@gentoo.org>
> To: Grant Goodyear <g2boojum@gentoo.org>
> Cc: gentoo-trustees@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3
>
> On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 14:51 -0600, Grant Goodyear wrote:
> > Deedra Waters wrote: [Sat Nov 05 2005, 12:22:10PM CST]
> > > The next step i believe is to present it to the devs. Does anyone have
> > > any problems with my going ahead with this to keep things moving?
> >
> > I'm certainly all for pushing it out to our devs.
>
> I agree, we've all said all we have to say. Now it has to be up to the
> community to accept, reject or modify it. I believe we have come up with
> the best solution we can, the only thing that is going to be difficult
> is convincing the community of the need for it (that and the fact that
> the document lacks any sinister nature).
>
> Is there any way that we can get it posted to -core coming from the
> trustees@ address...I think it would be far better if it was clear that
> the document was coming from the trustees as a whole and not just one
> individual.
>
> --Dan
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Deedra Waters]

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Corey Shields wrote:

> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 13:56:19 -0800
> From: Corey Shields <cshields@gentoo.org>
> To: gentoo-trustees@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3
>
> On Saturday 05 November 2005 10:22 am, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > From the past emails, it seems as though the general consensis with the
> > exception of 2 people is that everyone seems to like and is ready to go
> > with what the lawyers and corey and kurt put together.
> >
> > The next step i believe is to present it to the devs. Does anyone have
> > any problems with my going ahead with this to keep things moving?
>
> We need to inform our counsel that we are ready to present it to the devs.
> The one who drafted the document is willing to be involved in talks with the
> devs personally rather than us play telephone between him and the dev
> community.  This means he'll need to be in on the mailing list.  And,
> speaking of said list, discussions on the copyright proposal will need to
> remain PRIVATE at the requirement of our counsel until they are finalized to
> protect our status with our legal counsel.  This means no blog ranting or
> cross-posting of discussions.  I believe when we were discussing this with
> them the idea that was brought up between Kurt and I was to create a new
> mailing list for these discussions.  Anyone who violates the privacy of the
> discussion faces immediate suspension (and there will be people who do this.
> sucks to be them.)
>
> If we want to get this ball rolling that's great.

I'm ready to get this rolling, the sooner the better.
>
> Cheers,
>
> -C
>

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Re: [gentoo-trustees] copyright, take 3

[Donnie Berkholz]

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Daniel Ostrow wrote:
| Is there any way that we can get it posted to -core coming from the
| trustees@ address...I think it would be far better if it was clear that
| the document was coming from the trustees as a whole and not just one
| individual.

Sure, just one of us can create a mail alias in our client that purports
to come from "trustees@gentoo.org" and is named "Gentoo Foundation
Trustees."

We'd just need to make sure -core can accept posts from that address.

Thanks,
Donnie
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